October 28, 2008

Religion Theory

Some readers believe there is a religious connection inherent in these cases. Some of the victims were very religious and attended church-affiliated colleges or universities.

Readers  - feel free to post your comments/thoughts about a possible religious connection in the comments section under this post.




Posted: 05/19/09

147 comments:

Anonymous said...

I believe most, if not all, of these cases are murders. It seems that there are so many cases in so many parts of the country that are so similar, that many, or all, of these cases are perhaps related.

Some disappearances occurred on the same date in different parts of the country. If they are related, that would suggest there is a larger group (or different "cells") at work here.

In the catholic sex abuse scandals, some victims were transported to various locations for sex, and sometimes other priests & monks were involved & even saw victims in the perpetrator's bed, & bishops covered up for them. Some boys were found dead.

There is still a gut reaction in our society that members of the church could never be involved in something so heinous. That viewpoint has been proven to be very naive.

Many members of the church are good, i am sure. However, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN that many are capable of extreme evil. All men are human, and are capable of anything, no matter whether they portray themselves as holy men by day.

Some young men attended religious institutions & certainly knew & may have even counseled with priests. At a public college, a young man may also go into an on-site spiritual/counseling office (many of these are staffed at least part-time by a catholic priest), rather than go to a psychologist for counseling (since at a psychologist, his parents would eventually then receive a billing statement from the insurance company alerting them that their son had sought counseling). A college student can seek counseling or advice or just talk through his thoughts at an on-site chaplain office, without there being a paper trail of any type (at least not going to his parents).

Apparently all the religious necklaces (crosses, medals, crucifixes) of victims are missing, while other necklaces are still found on the other victims' necks. This means something. Perhaps they are kept by the killer as a trophy of some kind, or the killer felt guilty looking at the religious necklace on the victim's neck. But it definitely means something.

It would be interesting to check if the public colleges attended by some victims had an on-site counseling service that was staffed by a catholic priest, at least in part. Many priests who abused teenage boys, after having been transferred from parish to parish, were, eventually when things got too hot, transferred to be chaplains at colleges, thus providing them with a fresh batch of potential sexual partners.

Nowadays, if a counseling session with a priest turned to sex, & the priest made some sort of an advance, the college student may leave in disgust but still not tell his friends or family about the counseling sessions. The counselor priest might view this person as someone who needs to be bumped off.

Anything is possible.

Anonymous said...

If a student being counseled threatened to go public with the fact that the counselor/priest was making sexual advances -------- MOTIVE. Let's say the student originally sought counseling for some conflicting sexual feelings he had --- which wouldn't be so unusual today in our sexually charged society.

The student might not immediately tell anyone about this, since that would necessitate coming out with the fact that he had been talking with the counselor/priest (for what?). While the student delayed, not knowing what to do, a hit could be arranged.

During the earlier counseling sessions, the priest would have already ascertained that the student had told absolutely no one in public life about his perhaps conflicted sexual feelings or that he was stopping by the chaplain's office. The priest may have also questioned the student about having even made any entries onto his persona computer -- enough so that the counselor/priest would then feel comfortable in moving forward with his plan to silence the student before he blew the priest's cover.

The priest would fear that an accusation against him could result in scandal, lawsuit, criminal charge, loosing his position as a priest, etc.

Perhaps the priest/counselor actually engaged in one or more sexual episodes with the student who originally came in for counseling, before the sessions went awry --- necessitating that the student be silenced.

Anonymous said...

Many a person in power, like a perhaps narcissistic priest, is not about to allow a little meaningless sexual escape interfere with his career.

Perhaps the young man was just at the stage in his life where he was just exploring some things. It is natural for college age men to do sexual exploration. Perhaps at some stage, he came to feel it wasn't for him, but also felt it had been wrong for the priest to have encouraged him to further engage in such behavior. Perhaps the young man threatened to report the priest to the bishop, or at least asked the priest to agree to not do this with any others.

I doubt that any of these young men had actually yet reported the priest to a higher authority -- bishop, university, police.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the young man had reported the priest counselor to a bishop. A college-age man would probably think he could handle the situation on his own, by just reporting the errant priest to some other priest/bishop.

In the catholic sex abuse scandal, we have scene that reporting a priest to a bishop merely resulted in the bishop & church protecting the priest, in order to supposedly protect "the church", & often going to extremes to destroy the accuser.

If a college student today complained to the police or the right lawyer about a fairly recent episode of sexual abuse by a priest, I am certain the student would be believed.

It is possible that reporting an errant priest to another priest or bishop or even someone within the university (who is perhaps beholden to the priest) could result in retaliation against the accuser (who has not actually gone public with it), perhaps even in the form of murder.

Anonymous said...

I can imagine a student, who initially went to a college chaplain for counseling, in order to keep it secret that he was even seeking any counseling, also not wanting to go public with any complaint about an errant priest/chaplain. That could cause the young man to end up dead.

Anonymous said...

The president of St. Thomas University in St. Paul, MN, has been described as one of the top 4 bishops in the country who supports gay causes.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/nov/07112103.html

I have heard about a Lavendar Mafia or Gay Mafia, & it seems like gay aspects within the catholic church, or pedophile aspects where bishops cover up for abusing priests, and seek to discredit & destroy the accuser, operates in much the same way.


This is not a matter of gay rights. I think that consenting adults should be allowed to have gay relationships. That is not the issue.

The issue is --------- if someone was "outed" or threatened to be outed, could that precipitate a murder.

Certainly it could.

Those would all be pre-meditated murders by someone of a sound mind, acting to protect himself, by killing someone he viewed as a squealer.

These missing & dead college age young men, may have been killed by some deranged person, who has more of a psycho killer mentality -- perhaps. In that case, the motive would only be some whacko thoughts within the mind of the killer(s).

Perhaps that is why most all serial killers act alone. No one else is deranged in the same way he is.

Anonymous said...

If Dan Zamlen had complained to the wrong peron about an offending priest, it could have gotten him killed.

Anonymous said...

There have been tens of thousands of minors abused by thousands of priests who have forward.

If & when an adult male college student is abused by a priest during counseling, they often never come forward, in that they will simply be dismissed as an adult of legal age who consented, rather than a person in counseling who was abused by the counselor. In actuality, there are many more thousands of adults who have been abused by priests, than just the small number of reported cases.

Anonymous said...

Did a few different bloodhounds actually trace the scent of 2 different unrelated victims to the St John Abbey in Collegeville, MN ?

Detecting their scents both outside the abbey & inside the Abbey ?

& these victims were not at all connected to the St John Abbey, having never before been there supposedly?

Anonymous said...

Since the victims are basically attractive athletic college age dudes, I can virtually guarantee that they get hit on by gay dudes. They probably get hit on way more often than most dudes ---which, after a period of time, could in some instances cause a dude to perhaps start questioning his own sexuality / sexual orientation. (eg-- why is this happening to me? is there something about me? maybe starts imagining what it might be like). This pattern escalates even moreso in college.

Feeling confused about stuff, which is normal for a college age dude, he might eventually seek out some type of counseling, but totally on the sly, because he would be afraid to have anyone else know about his feelings/conflicts/confusion. Thus, this normal athletic decently attractive dude meets up with some priest in counseling at the college chaplain office.

Let's say the priest/chaplain is attracted to young dudes (hardly unbelievable with all that we know). Even if the priest never makes an overt come-on to the dude, somehow the priest could feel rejected or jealous of this younger, better looking guy, who seems to have it all going for him.

Everything else in this scenario seems pretty plausible & trust me, it all happens all the time. Here's the big leap ------------If the priest is a whacko pervert molester killer, the student may have confided his inner most thoughts in the wrong person.

It is not at all a big leap to think that a college chaplain priest is gay & attracted to young dudes. That is precisely why most of them asked to be college chaplains. That scenario has occurred over & over in all the priest sex abuse cases.

It's not a big leap to say that an attractive college dude gets hit on by gay dudes.

Of course, not every college chaplain priest is a murderer, but trust me, virtually 100% of them are gay & asked to be a college chaplain, just so they could have access to fresh meat.

The other thing we don't know is whether any of these dudes ever sought any counseling of any kind, specifically from a college chaplain. Most all young dudes have looked at porn on their computers on the internet. I assume the police have checked their computers. If there is more than just an occasional glance at a gay porn site, the cops probably concluded the dude is gay & committed suicide -- CASE CLOSED.

Actually having been on some gay porn web sites might actually indicate a sexual conflict or confusion, which might cause a dude to want some form of counseling, entirely discreet, so his parents & no one he knows would find out.

Did these students keep a calendar planner of some type? Did they go for regular counseling sessions? Is the campus chaplain office more of drop-in type office?

The priests & monks who have engaged in sexual abuse, basically exploited the boy's/man's vulnerabilities. It happens all the time!

Anonymous said...

Gay dudes check out, & glance at, & stare at good looking dudes all the time. A college student who is getting stared at or come on to is less likely to kick the shit out of the dude who is doing it, even if he can't stand it. If he's kind of confused by it & as to how exactly he feels, then he will definitely not kick the shit out of the dude, who is kind of coming on to him. He will just put up with it & feel even more confused/conflicted, because part of him will wish that he had kicked the shit out of the dude, while part of him will be kind of flattered by it. How weird is that? But that is exactly how it goes down, all the time.

Anonymous said...

Here is an entire blog on the subject

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message794636/pg5
please Note-there is overwhelming fact based evidence on these pages-
there is only a small dose of theorising based upon the documented actual evidences.

TO all those looking for the identity of the smiley face killers, i understand you are looking at the patterns and trying to see if it means something, and you each have various theories based upon the trail of graffiti name place conections etc, and all the various leads and roads the smiley gang themselves left for you to see in the media and wanted you to follow and come to your THEORY and YOUR conclusions based upon THEIR collection of theory shaping calling cards.

It is not a theory however that all the catholic/christians victims have had their relgious symbols removed from them.
According to Christi Phiel this has happened without exception.

Plus it is not a theory that the scent of two unconnected victims were traced to both outside and inside the abby that housed 11 abuser preists , who targetted college graduate aged males and that is according to the lawyer who worked on the st johns MN cases abuse cases.

So these two evidences being not theory but an evidence trail of the killers needs to be a focus point and starting point from any theorising.Why just thses tow evidecnes?
Beacuse we have tw of the drowning victims traced to a place and to people that have a history of interest in men such as these two young men, there is no other piece of evidence in all 40 odd cases that have such a strong circumstance leading straight too possible perpatraters who fit exactly as having interests in the victims profiles .

I keep reiterating the above and i feel i am talking to the dead.

I find it totally amazing and even criminal that knowing the above is the only actual real concrete lead the investigation into these killers has brought forth, that the investigating public and even the detectives seemed to have totaly ignored it and are chasing phantoms.
It is true in the beggining the smiley face killers were phantoms, but now we have real leads which are mutaully connected and make absolute sense in provding definite motive and we even have a scene of a crime, all this is being ignored while each day passes and a new victim comes up, another young life needlessly wasted when the evidence above is criminally and recklessly ignored.

Anonymous said...

Due to increasing and constant difficulty in posting to the smiley face killers revealed blog at godlike productions, i will have to post this here.
As everytime it try to post on that particular thread of which i am the author i immediiately get blocked.

JOSH GUIMOND WENT MISSING FROM ST JOHNS UNIVERSITY WHICH IS WHERE THE ST JOHNS ABBY IS SITUATED.

JOSH WAS RESIDENT AT ST JOHNS UNIVERSITY- THE MONKS HAVE THEIR ABBY RIGHT NEAR THE CAMPUS.
Chris Jenkins had no connection to st johns university .
Nathan Edburg - Nick Rossini -MOTHERS WORKED TOGETHER So i connect them

Nick Rossinni attended St. John's University, where just two years earlier, student Joshua Guimond disappeared.
JOSH GUIMONDS' AND CHRIS JENKINS' scent found outide and insideSt. John's University campus in Collegeville, Minnesota.


Nathan Edburg - Nick Rossini
Police believe Edberg accidentally drove off the road, but he has never been found.

In a strange coincidence, the Rossini home is not too far from Decoy's Bar where Nathan Edberg was last seen. The mothers of both young men also work together at Lincoln Elementary school and live within a few miles of each other.

Anonymous said...

11/09/02: Josh Guimond, 20, Collegeville, MN

JOSH GUIMOND IS STILL MISSING.
JOSH'S PICTURE
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/3813/215615563291529/200/guimond.jpg

Josh Guimond left a small card party at Metten Court on the St. John's University campus in Collegeville, MN, to walk back to his own dorm room at St. Maur House. It was a three minute walk, but he never made it home.


The Search
A lake runs in an open area between the two buildings, and Metten Court is about a half-block from the edge of the water. A search dog led officers to the lake after it was given a scent of Guimond's clothing. Guimond has not been found.

ST JOHNS CAMPUS MAP - JOSH ROUTE
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5GXr4yDEwn8/RXcvUS6V7sI/AAAAAAAAAA0/rqyvYHV6maw/s400/guimondmap.gif


Josh is unlikely to have just run off. He is active in student organizations, and a friend describes him as “brilliant student of the law, shrewd politician.” His goal was to serve in the Minnesota House of Representatives. Friends and family say that Josh's life was so well-planned that his disappearance has to be foul play. He did not have his glasses, his car, his credit cards, or even a coat that was appropriate for the weather. No belongings missing from his apartment. His parents, from Maple Lake, Minnesota, are convinced that he was taken against his will. If you have information about Josh Guimond's disappearance, please contact America's Most Wanted, 1-800-CRIME TV1-800-274-6388.

Facts of Interest in This Case:

The scents of Josh Guimond and Chris Jenkins (another drowning victim and the only one to be ruled a homocide)- were tracked by a trained bloodhound on two occasions one in december and one in the following january, the later being inside the abby itself and inside the monks residences.The same bloodhound tracked evidence in the chris jenkinds case which LE endorsed in its subsequent ruling of a homocide in the chris jenkins missing person case.

St. John's (Benedictine) Abbey and University in Collegeville was the base from which the catholic church hatched its attempted international cover up of sexual and satanic abuse,em ploying specialists experts ready to try and debunk the soon coming avalacnhe of cases.
St Johns was also mentioned in an interview confession with a bond agent working with LE to find Jacob WEtterling the information came from a known pedophile working to help find Jacob Wetterling who went missing from ST CLOUD MN.
He stated Jacob had been taken to Monks at the Abbey and jacob was one of their favourites. Part of the information the former Bond Agent had in relation to the Wetterling case involved satanic rituals also.
11 monks have since been credibly accused of abuse on mostly young college aged men since the statement was taken..
Jacob wetterling was the last major pre teen missing case in the area back in the early nineties.

Name/age: Josh Guimond, 20 (from Maple Lake, MN)
College: St. John's University (political science)
Physical description: 6," 176#, blonde hair
Last seen: 11/09/02, Metten Court on campus
Recovered: STILL MISSING
http://www.findjoshua.com/




Jan Jenkins (MOTHER OF CHRIS JENKINS)
May 20th, 2009 at 07:25 | 16
Reply | Quote

Scent dogs have no political agendas, no reason to mislead anyone. After following two bloodhounds, we learned that they are an invaluable asset. Two different bloodhounds, 6 weeks apart, tracked Chris’s scent to the same stall in an underground garage. The vehicle Chris rode in with his friends was NOT parked in that garage the night he vanished. Both dogs rested & did the same thing again. The dogs made other identical discoveries. Many discounted the work of these dogs. We highly doubt the dogs spoke with each other and planned a strategy to throw us off. Of course many factors come into play in a search effort with scent dogs. Because they are an invaluable asset, why aren’t scent dogs used immediately and routinely, especially in cases of missing people when every second counts in the critical first three hours?

Anonymous said...

LETS GO BACK TO THE SAME AREA AND ITS RIVER ONLY IN THE 1990'S

1990 \" Police Chief Bill McCutcheon said Wednesday that the mutilation of the
body of an unidentified boy apparently was part of a "religious group, a
fanatical group."


Investigators were consulting cult experts to determine what kinds of
groups may have performed such a ritual.
TRY PEDOPHILE SATANIC PREISTS

"We're interested in knowing if
there was a ceremony down by the river," McCutcheon said.
YEP AND THEY ARE STILL DOING THEM TODAY ON OLDER YOUNG MEN

Police say boy's embalmed body possibly used in occult ritual
ST. PAUL, Minn. (UPI) -- A boy's mutilated embalmed body pulled from the
Mississippi River possibly was robbed from a grave and used in an occult
ritual, police said Wednesday.
HERE THEY MADE AN INFERENECE TO BLUR THE FACTS "possibly was robbed from a grave"
I DONT THINK SO.

"The decapitation and removal of the extremities is a custom in some
ritualistic ceremonies.


McCutcheon said the body apparently was removed "from a ********* or other (ABBEY?)
place of custody."

There have been no reports of any grave robbing in the
Twin Cities and police said they were waiting for word from elsewhere in
Minnesota. NO GRAVES ROBBED SO ?
MUST BE A FRESH KILL- STANDS TO REASON.

Anonymous said...

McCutcheon said the body found in the river had been embalmed and there
were procedures performed by morticians visible on it.
PUZZLING ISNT IT
HERES THE EXPLANATION

SATANIC DEATH RITUALS
NECROMENCY

The best symbol of a wraith's identity is his Fetter, an object with which he has a pre-existing emotional relationship.

One of the hallmark necromantic abilities allows the necromancer to acquire the Fetter of a wraith he plans to command on a regular basis

a treasured photograph, a high-school yearbook or a wedding ring. Or it might reflect a favorite interest or hobby — a camera to capture a photographer, a model bike to drive a motocross enthusiast, a hook to catch a fisherman. It would be incongruous for the Taboo-breaking rites to follow a formulaic arrangement like that above. Each working is unique. However, certain common elements unite them all.


The most obvious common point is that all employ the remains of the dead (usually human remains) or other powerful symbols of death that arouse disgust and anxiety in the living. Grave dust, chunks of tombstone, maggots (especially those recently engaged in devouring dead flesh), coffin nails, embalming equipment and autopsy tools all fit the latter category. Necromantic doctrine states that the symbols of death must be relevant to the society in which the practitioner operates. For example, traditional Chinese avoid the ancient funerary bronzes of their nation's archaeological past, because of their association with death; at the same time, Western collectors of Chinese art covet them as attractive antiquities and art objects. A funerary urn would be no good to a necromancer of Western origin in a Western country, but might be useful if the necromancer is either breaking a tradition of his own upbringing, or is working his magic in China.

Taboo-breaking rites seek to combine the remains and relics of death with actions society at large sees as wholly separate from death. Youth is seen as the opposite of death, so necromancers involve children or symbols of childhood in their ceremonies.

Anonymous said...

ST JOHNS - JACOB WETTERLING
"pediphilic,satanic and coruption"

"HE WAS A FAVOURITE AT THE ABBEY"
Her name is Diane Muehlbauer and she is listed on the Minnesota list of now expired (as of june 30) bail bonds agents.
The lady who has all this info on Jacob Wetterling's disappearance and the tapes upon tapes upon tapes of confessions,talks with f.b.i. and with private investigators. I have tried to contact you through the infowars site and by phone but when I talked to your secretary she said I needed to send proof of all this. I provided her name where she works and the story behind it and she said that she has fought for 5 plus years to get this info out with no one believing her, that she was hoping to just talk to prove her credibility. She said she will not send any tapes because she said she has been burned too many times with requests just like this. You can verify online that she is who she says she is and wants very badly to get this story out. This story could be almost as big as the conspiracy of silence boys town story. Please respond to this.
The disappearance of Jacob was shrouded in mystery and pediphilic,satanic and coruption also surrounded the case and that is what this lady I am in contact with will speak to. Her name is Diane Muehlbauer and she is listed on the Minnesota list of now expired (as of june 30) bail bonds agents.
The father of Jacob was friends with a pedophile who was questioned after his abduction.
I said the Diane would say all that needs to be said but just to keep this post alive I will divulge other things. Diane(the bail bondsman) who was connected to this case and saw so many things not being asked went ahead and did some digging of her own after the pedophile that had been questioned about wetterling's disappearance, confessed to Diane that he had foreknowledge of the act and of the pedophile ring at St. Johns Abbey where Jacob was "a favorite".
did you get that?

MONKS AT ST JOHNS ABBEY ACCUSED OF BEING INVOLVED IN A ABDUCTION ABUSE AND OCCULT RITUALS BY A WITNESS WHO GAVE HIS STATEMENT TO A BOND AGENT WORKING WITH LE ON THE CASE OF JACOB WETTERLING.

And this was years ago, and i never knew about it, i only went off the evidence at st johns Abbey -the findings of the bloodhounds.
yet we have this witness statement taken before any of this started. But then in 200o the big news of the sex abuse scandals broke and such accusations as the ones above became all too common.

Anonymous said...

If several of these monks have been proven to have engaged in sex with children & other sexual abuse of college age men, then it is certainly not inconceivable that they could also engaged in murder. The college age victims fit the profile of the type of sex partners these monks were looking for. Some were known to the monks on the St John campus, some may have been stalked , & some may have been random targets, having staggered out of college bar or on or near a college campus.

Anonymous said...

Much of the sexual abuse on younger children essentially amounted to violent rape. A rapist is violent either because the victim would not voluntarily cooperate with the attacker, or just because the attacker can or wants to control or subdue the victim in some way. To subdue these healthy strong athletic college guys is a turn on for the attackers. There could be some other kind of sexual act, besides sodomy (of which there is apparently no evidence on the bodies), that would give the attackers the same kind of thrill.

Murder is the answer ultimately, just be able to get rid of the victim as a witness.

Anonymous said...

I believe there is probably some typ of sexual connection to these crimes, in that sexual craving is the driving force that keeps the killers motivated & drives them to do more.

I believe the victims are probably drugged in some way to incapacitate them (date rape drug) rendering the strong young athlete helpless, perhaps combined with viagra, which is relatively short-lived in a persons system. This combination of drugs would provide the effect that the perpetrator wanted -- erection plus docility. Use your imagination as to types of sexual acts that could then be performed without there ever being a trace. Of course, this is assuming that the victims are held as a prisoner of sorts for a period of time, before they are drowned.

The drownings could actually occur in a pool or bathtub, with the body later being placed in the river or wherever. The actual composition of the water in the victims' lungs should be looked at by the medical examiners to see if it is Mississippi River water or tap water or whatever.

Talk to any number of gay guys, & you will find that one of the most prevalent fantasies of many gay men is to either worship &/or suck the hard penis of a young strong straight jock or to be penetrated by the jocks' penis. Either of these scenarios would leave little or no evidence, especially after the body had been in the river for a while.

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous re: alchemy

I left the post at 2:41, thanks for following up with the interesting links. So are you saying that you believe the priests at St. John's may be modern day followers of alchemy, but not so much in the philosophical sense of transmuting metals into gold, but more in a black arts way? Interesting hypothesis; I'd like to know more about it. How do you think this fits in with the victims?


hi
It is not only supected there is a serious interest in alchemy at st johns uni and abby. it is proven,
also at the alchemy site aswell as Father Wilfred Theisen OSB other monks post also on the same site.

nner Alchemy e-mail group archive
February 1997.
Back to Inner archive . Back to E-mail groups.

Subject: INNER - Interpreting symbols
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 15:13:47 -0500
From: Br.Athanasius


As too the connections between the 80 odd drowning deaths and the various different circumstances of victim location , dress, general profile and perviceved furture roles , and the dark symbolism and ultimate occult goal found within alchemy, the connections are astonishingly apt.

Anonymous said...

UNDERGROUND TUNNELS ALL OVER ST JOHNS COLLEGEVILLE st johns abby AND PREDATORS OF STUDENTS AT ST JOHNS ABBY MN




Date / Time: 1/19/2008 3:57:05 PM
Your Name:
vianneyEE
Your Comments:
I am new to this site and have read a few of the comments from the past week. One asked if there are secret tunnels under campus. I can tell you that there are. I discovered these one summer while at a camp when I was in high school. They run all over campus from building to building. At one point I remember we were near the monastery and could hear voices from above. There were many locked doors and some open ones too. After exploring for several hours we were caught by Br. Willie and he gave us a tour of the bowels of the library. My point is that if no one has searched those tunnels, it could be well worth it. As I said, I am new to this site and Josh popped into my mind today. My son just graduated from SJU this past May. I am also an alum. It troubles me that in my mind there is no shortage of possible suspects that have come and gone and are still there. Taking into acount the ways of many of the monks and the overall attitude. Has anyone looked into Josh's relationships with any of the aforementioned monks? The infamous list of 13 -14 of them is just the ones who were caught and I know for a fact that at least one of those is still doing things that were supposed to be out of bounds for these monks. May God bless the Guimond family and may there be justice for them.



Date / Time: 1/19/2008 9:15:13 PM
Your Name:
DoubleDash
Your Comments:

"FYI" From http://www.behindthepinecurtain.com/ (Articles & Documents) - December 2007 "Update - Regarding Bruce Wollmering. We have received information regarding harassment claims against Wollmering and his dismissal from the University. The Abbey and University allegedly covered up the harassment claims, failed to report the claims to the proper authorities and allowed Wollmering to stay on as an instructor, then resign at the end of the (spring 2003) semester. Wollmering has also allegedly admitted to relationships with at least three university students."








Date / Time: 1/19/2008 8:26:15 PM
Your Name:
DoubleDash
Your Comments:
Darn it all, those tunnels should have been searched the moment it was discovered Josh was missing. I cannot believe this, I don't even have the words to describe my disgust. Back to the night Josh went missing -- I think he was lured somewhere by someone on that campus he knew. The perpetrator meticulously planned his crime -- and I've no doubt he has committed other crimes of this nature in the past. It is difficult but not impossible to get to the bottom of this. Please encourage anyone you know who went to school with Josh to come forward with any info they may have. Five years have come and gone -- how many more years have to pass before we get justice for Josh? Someone out there please do the right thing.




JOSHUA GUIMONDS DAD
Date / Time: 1/20/2008 4:34:20 AM
Your Name:
joshs dad
Your Comments:
The tunnels where searched by stearns county sherrifs dept., but that is like having the fox watch the hen house. we need to put enough pressure on the sherriffs dept. that we can get a cold case unit to invetigate, someone with absolutly no ties to st. johns, that is where it started that is where the truth starts.


http://www.findjoshua.com/view.asp

Anonymous said...

OSHUA GUIMONDS DAD

Date / Time: 6/15/2008 5:47:56 AM
Your Name:
joshs dad
Your Comments:
We are doing all we can to get you back home Josh, but these bastards have alot of connections,one day we will get through and see you again,love dad.

http://www.findjoshua.com/view.asp


JOSHUA GUIMONDS DAD

"I believe it is because of the money and power St. Johns has,lets face the facts here,St. Johns has covered up all they could about the monks that like boys,what is one more cover up? "







Date / Time: 4/25/2008 6:29:02 PM
Your Name:
DoubleDash
Your Comments:
I'm with you on this, Mr. Guimond. It's called "COVER UP IN COLLEGEVILLE" where money, power and influence mean more than telling the truth



http://www.findjoshua.com/view.asp
page 11 comments section.

Anonymous said...

UNDERGROUND TUNNELS AT ST JOHNS
TOO ??????

DAN ZAMLEN ST PAUL
IN RIVER NO YET FOOTRPINTS OR DISTURBANCES SHOWING WHERE HE WENT INTO RIVER


I WONDER IS IT CONCIEVABLE THE UNDERGROUND TUNNELS ARE BEING ACCESSED BY THE PREISTS TO COVERTLY SEND THE BODIES INTO THE WATER WAYS??
HOW FAR DO THSE TUNNELS GO AND DO SOME REACH TYHE MISSISSIPPI RIVER?

IT IS MOST PROBABLE THE UNDERGROUND TUNNELS HAVE OUTLETS TO WATER AT SOME POINT, HO W BIG IS THE SYSTEM RUNNING FROM ST JOHNS?
DOES THE NETWORK GO TOO THE MAJOR CITY EVEN?

DO THE TUNNELS JOIN SEWEAGE OUTLETS ANYWHERE?
IT SEEM VERY PROBABLE, AND JUST THINK A BODY HIDEEN UNDERGROUND SO LONG AFTER BEING USED BY THE PREISTS, ENTIRELEY HIDDEN UNDER THE GROUND UNTIL THE BODY NATURALLY JUST POPS OUT INTO THE RIVER MAYBE MILES DOWN FROM LAST SEEN AREA, AND WEEKS AFTER PERPS HAVE DONE WHAT THEY WANT TOO THE VICTIMS.

HOW PERFECT FOR THEM!!!!!!!!


A PERFECT COVER FOR THE KILLERS AND IT SOLVES THE MYSTERY OF ENTRY POINTS!!!!!

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER TUNNEL CLUE


The body of the college freshman was recovered in the Mississippi River in St. Paul, Minnesota on May 1. Dan was last seen early April 5th. His friends lost contact with Dan after he left a party near the University of St. Thomas.


WHY SO LONG FOR SOME BODIES TO SURFACE IN RIVERS???

SOME MAY BE HIDDEN UNDERGROUND IN TUNNELS READY TO FLOAT INTO RIVER

SOME MAY BE HELD ALIVE

SOME MAY BE DISPOSED OF TOTALY NEVER TO SURFACE.

WHY SO LONG FOR SOME BODIES TO SURFACE IN RIVERS???
How is it so easy for the preists and their men on the ground to go unoticed while placing all the bodies in the rivers?
no one has ever seen it take place yet 80 to 150 odd and growing bodies seemingly have been placed in water by the killers without EVEN ONE WITNESS TO THE ACT.

IT VERY POSSIBLE THE USE OF A SOME KIND OF TUNNEL NETWORK LEADING TO THE RIVERS IS THE REASON FOR THIS ANOMONALY.
NOW WE HAVE CREDIBLE EVIDECNE OF THEIR EXISTENCE AT ST JOHNS ABBY.

Historically tunnel networks used by monks and the catholic romans in general would be very extensive, even leading to major cities form remote abbys, these network would be side by side with sewege underground works that lead to major water ways and rivers like the Mississippi.

Any lead is worth a try.

Anonymous said...

ST JOHNS MONKS DABBLING IN SERIOUS STUDY OF ALCHEMY



http://www.alchemywebsite.com/frm0250.html
THE ALCHEMY WEBSITE


I HAVE PUBLISHED A SHORT ARTICLE IN THE PERIODICAL
>THE AMERICAN BENEDICTINE REVIEW, WITH THE TITLE, "THE ATTRACTION
>OF ALCHEMY FOR MONKS AND FRIARS IN THE 13TH-14TH CENTURIES.



WILFRED THEISEN, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA.



THE SEPTEMBER, 1995 VOLUME OF THE PERIODICAL.
>
>WILFRED THEISEN, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA
Thu Feb 08 09:48:08 1996
Subject: 0201 alchemy and christianity

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:47:04 -0600
From: Dale/Sandi Halverstadt


>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 9:28:53 -0600 (CST)
>From: WTHEISEN
>
>
>SOME HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ALCHEMY AND
>CHRISTIANITY. I HAVE PUBLISHED A SHORT ARTICLE IN THE PERIODICAL
>THE AMERICAN BENEDICTINE REVIEW, WITH THE TITLE, "THE ATTRACTION
>OF ALCHEMY FOR MONKS AND FRIARS IN THE 13TH-14TH CENTURIES." IN THE ARTICLE
>I TRIED TO INDICATE THE GREAT INTEREST IN ALCHEMY AMONG RELIGIOUS,
>ESPECIALLY AMONG THE DOMINICANS AND THE FRANCISCANS, AND GAVE
>SOME REASONS FOR THIS INTEREST AND FOR THE NEGATIVE REACTION ON
>THE PART OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE ARTICLE IS FOUND IN
>THE SEPTEMBER, 1995 VOLUME OF THE PERIODICAL.
>
>WILFRED THEISEN, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA

Are you aware of any Dominican or Franciscan Abbeys presently actively
involved in alchemy at this time? And can you provide any information on
them more than a yes or no?
Friar









Fri Feb 09 16:07:00 1996
Subject: 0210 alchemy and christianity

Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:16:34 -0600
From: George Randall Leake III


>>From: WTHEISEN [edited for brevity]
>>IN THE ARTICLE I TRIED TO INDICATE THE GREAT INTEREST IN ALCHEMY AMONG
>>>>RELIGIOUS, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE DOMINICANS AND THE FRANCISCANS
>>WILFRED THEISEN, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA
>>From: Dale/Sandi Halverstadt
>Are you aware of any Dominican or Franciscan Abbeys presently actively
>involved in alchemy at this time?

***it's my impression that nearly all Western alchemists after the
resurgence of the art were either clergy or very religious. Even explicitly
magical texts seem to go on and on about how these efforts were in pursuit
of the nature of God's universe. The stigma against alchemy seems to be a
late development--this colors our perception of it in much the same way as
the modern tendency to imbue Tarot with divinitory connotations.









Sat Feb 10 10:53:59 1996
Subject: 0216 alchemy and christianity

Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 22:34:36 PST
From: A.J.Le Sage


Have anyone considered the reasons why Alchemy was
so prolithic among the medeval clergy.
1 An Abbey would offer the safest of Havens for study.
2 The Abbeys were the only place where the realvant
documents could be found.


---------------Original Message---------------
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:16:34 -0600
From: George Randall Leake III


>>From: WTHEISEN [edited for brevity]
>>IN THE ARTICLE I TRIED TO INDICATE THE GREAT INTEREST IN ALCHEMY AMONG
>>>>RELIGIOUS, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE DOMINICANS AND THE FRANCISCANS
>>WILFRED THEISEN, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA
>>From: Dale/Sandi Halverstadt
>Are you aware of any Dominican or Franciscan Abbeys presently actively
>involved in alchemy at this time?

***it's my impression that nearly all Western alchemists after the
resurgence of the art were either clergy or very religious. Even explicitly
magical texts seem to go on and on about how these efforts were in pursuit
of the nature of God's universe. The stigma against alchemy seems to be a
late development--this colors our perception of it in much the same way as
the modern tendency to imbue Tarot with divinitory connotations.

Anonymous said...

http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/news/06ordjub.html

50 Years Since Ordination as Priests

Father Wilfred Theisen OSB
Father Wilfred Theisen celebrates 50 years of priestly ordination. He was born on September 5, 1929, in Wadena, Minnesota, and professed first vows on July 11, 1950. He was ordained on May 19, 1956. Fr. Wilfred taught in the Physics Department of Saint John's University for 47 years and at his retirement in 2005 he was named Professor Emeritus. His deep and abiding interest in physics, alchemy and the history of science has been an inspiration to his colleagues and his students for decades.

His most rewarding assignment outside of teaching, however, was his work as abbey liaison officer to the Institute for Ecumenical and Cultural Research that offered the opportunity to get to know more than 300 residents who expanded his spiritual and theological horizons considerably.




SO ABOVE YOU HAVE YOUR EVIDENCE OF SERIOUS AND STUDIOUS INTEREST IN THE OCCULT AT ST JOHNS ABBY COLLGEVILLE mn

Anonymous said...

ALCHEMY.

ASWELL AS SHOWING STRONG INTEREST IN DARK ARTS AND MAGIK AMONGST TITLED MONKS AT ST JOHNS COLLEG AND ABBY MN, COULD ALSO HAVE STRONG SIGNINFICANCE IN RELATION TO REMOVAL OF RELIGIOUS NECK CHAINS.





http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/images/photo_ordination06.jpg


50 Years Since Ordination as Priests

Father Wilfred Theisen OSB PICTURED ABOVE LINK

From Top (L to R): Father Angelo Zankl OSB; Father Edwin Stueber OSB; Father Wilfred Theisen OSB; Father Daniel Durken OSB; Father Knute Anderson OSB; Father Luke Steiner OSB; Father Kevin Seasoltz OSB; Father Robert Koopmann OSB



Father Wilfred Theisen celebrates 50 years of priestly ordination. He was born on September 5, 1929, in Wadena, Minnesota, and professed first vows on July 11, 1950. He was ordained on May 19, 1956. Fr. Wilfred taught in the Physics Department of Saint John's University for 47 years and at his retirement in 2005 he was named Professor Emeritus. His deep and abiding interest in physics, alchemy and the history of science has been an inspiration to his colleagues and his students for decades.

His most rewarding assignment outside of teaching, however, was his work as abbey liaison officer to the Institute for Ecumenical and Cultural Research that offered the opportunity to get to know more than 300 residents who expanded his spiritual and theological horizons considerably.




Example of the ancient texts of alchemists from the alchemy website on which the above man from st johns abby posted to his fellow alchemists , news of his new article in THE AMERICAN BENEDICTINE REVIEW


"And they did as he commanded them, and the time being over they opened the chamber and found him most dead. But his relations went presently to the Alexandrine and Egyptian physicians, and brought them to him and told them what had happened to the King. When they had seen him, they said that without doubt he might be delivered from it.

Then they asked "Who is the Master among you?"

And the Alexandrines answered "We if you please".

Then the said Masters did take the King and cut him in very small pieces, grinding these. Then they did mix them with their moistening medicines a little, then they put him also prepared into his chamber in a warm temperate place as before for a day and a night. When this was done, they did take him half-dead, but having yet a little life, and seeing this the King's relations said, "Ach the King is dead".

Anonymous said...

To which the physicians answered, "He is not dead, do not make a noise as he sleeps".

Now they did take him again and washed him with sweet waters so often till the least of the medicinal waters went off. Then they mixed him again with new medicine and put him again in his place as before, and when they did take him out they found him quite dead.

Then his relations did exclaim, "The King is dead".

To which the physicians did answer "We killed him for the reason that after his resurrection and the Day of Judgement he may become stronger and more powerful in this world as he was before".


When the relations did hear this, they fancied they were impostors, and then taking from them their medicines they forced them to leave the kingdom. When this was over, they deliberated together what should be done with the dead poisoned body, and they concluded that they should bury him that his stink might bring no damage.

When the Alexandrine physicians did hear this, they came and said, "Do not bury him, for if you please, we will make him better and more powerful than before".

The relations began to scorn them saying, "Will you impose on us also as the others have done? And if you do not perfect what you promise you shall not evade our hands".

To which the physicians consented, and they did take the dead king, as the others hath left him and grinding him they washed him well till nothing remained of the others medicines, then they did dry him. Then they did take of salt armoniac one part, and two parts of Alexandrine Nitre. This they did mix with the powder of the dead King. Then they did make a paste of it with linseed oil, and put it into a chamber, made like a perforated crucible, and under the hole they put another clean crucible. There they left him for one hour, then they covered it with fire blowing till all was melted into the other crucible, descending through the hole. Then the King, also brought from dead to life, cried out "Where are the enemies. Let them know that I will kill them, if they do not obey me immediately".

When they heard this they came before him saying "My Lord, we are ready to obey all your commandments", and from that hour all kings and neighbours did fear him, and when they would see his wonders, they put one ounce of washed mercury into a crucible and projected upon it as much as a grain of linseed of his hairs, nails or blood. When they blowed gently the coals, then they left him to cool, and they found a stone which I know. Of this stone they projected a little upon purified Saturn and presently its form was altered as I know of which afterwards. They put one part upon ten of Venus and it would be all of one goodness and colour. And by another way they did take the said stone powdered and mixed him with salt and Sol as before, and melted him and projected the said dissolved salts into goat's cream, and then it grows good for all things.

Brother, keep secret this treatise for it is of an importance amongst the fools, and no importance amongst wise men, and this is the Royal way of three days, for they will have but little labour and great lucre. Let us glorify the Most High Creator who has taught his faithful Servant to transmute accidences into substances, also that they may bring to action these powers which lay hidden in divers things."

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/merlin.html


alchemy

The colors BLACK and RED date back to Ancient Egypt. Egypt was known as the "Black and Red Land" and was the center of Alchemy. Alchemy is the transformation of the human soul into the godhead. Through this transformation, we complete Our Creator -they say THE DEVILS- unfinished work.

http://www.freewebs.com/666moon/index.htm

Jesus Christ Is THE SON OF GOD AND LORD OF ALL.

Anonymous said...

ESOTERIC OCCULTIC RITUALS OF ALCHEMY
ABBYS ONLY PLACE ALCHEMIC TEXTX COULD BE FOUND !!

Have anyone considered the reasons why Alchemy was
so prolithic among the medeval clergy.
1 An Abbey would offer the safest of Havens for study.
2 The Abbeys were the only place where the realvant
documents could be found.

Clipped from above post

Anonymous said...

Hermetic Alchemy Unveiled

Despite popular misunderstandings about a gold-making pseudo-science,

Hermetic inner alchemy comprises the highest and most secret practices of both the Hermetic and Rosicrucian traditions. *******************************


*************************
Hermetic inner alchemy is in reality a system that uses the subtle fires of the human body, including love and sexuality, as potent tools for spiritual development by transmuting the matter of the physical body into ever purer and more refined forms of energy.

***************




Developed as the 'Royal Art,' alchemy in ancient Egypt was originally reserved for the Pharaoh and the ruling class, as once was Taoist sexual practice for the Chinese Emperors. From Ptolomaic Alexandria with its confluence of Hellenic and Egyptian cultures, Hermetic alchemy spread across the Mediterranean to Europe with the Greek and the Roman Empires. In Greece, alchemy became enshrined in the Pythagoreanism, whereas in Rome it became a cornerstone of the Hermetic tradition.

The emergence of Christianity posed a unique threat to the survival of alchemy. To protect the 'Royal Art' from destruction with the emergence of Christianity



http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=102-true-nature-of-hermetic-alchemy

Anonymous said...

ALCHEMY SYMBOLISM

SEX IN THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER NON GAY VERSION

http://www.golden-dawn.com/goldendawn/UserFiles/EN/image/article/conjuntionew.jpg


In certain instances the meaning of alchemical imagery is quite obvious for those with eyes to understand. For example, the images of the Rosarium Philosophorum, as illustrated below, clearly depict the erotic nature of Hermetic alchemy.

That images or descriptions of processes may be taken literally (as in the case of the above image from the 'Rosarium Philosophorum'), however, tends to be the exception rather than the rule. Indeed, the vast majority of authentic alchemical documents or series of images must be read as poetry rather than as prose. In other words, one must look beyond the content, beyond the obvious, and attempt to understand as in poetry what is intended by analogy and by metaphor.

This becomes is a simpler task once the erotic nature of Hermetic alchemy is understood. It is also helpful to bear in mind why alchemical documents and images were created to begin with; in order to communicate certain truths between alchemists, yet simultaneously preventing understanding them.understanding by non-initiates.


http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=102-true-nature-of-hermetic-alchemy

Anonymous said...

THE IMAGE ABOVE ALCHEMY SYMBOLSIM SEX IN THE RIVER NON GAY VERSION

IS PART OF THIS RITUAL
THE Rosarium Philosophorum
WHICH IS DEPICTED IN FULL HERE IN A SERIES OF WOODCUTTINGS



http://www.levity.com/alchemy/rosarium.html

Anonymous said...

http://www.golden-dawn.com/goldendawn/UserFiles/EN/image/article/conjuntionew.jpg

That images or descriptions of processes may be taken literally (as in the case of the above image from the 'Rosarium Philosophorum'),


may be taken literally (as in the case of 'Rosarium Philosophorum'


TAKE IT LITERALLY IT IS SAYING

http://www.golden-dawn.com/eu/displaycontent.aspx?pageid=102-true-nature-of-hermetic-alchemy

FULL SET OF RITUAL AGAIN IS HERE

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/rosarium.html

Anonymous said...

Ressurection out of the swamp
from same website the monk from st johns posted on


they claimed josh guimond had sunk in mud at the swamp!

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/ss8.html



Fountains have figured in some victims cases
The Alchemy web site on Levity.com
(SAME WEBSITE THAT THE MONK FROM ST JOHNS POSTED AT BY THE WAY )

Splendor Solis. Image 3 - The Knight on the double fountain
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/images/ss3.jpg



Gate of Alchemy
Also known as the "Gate of Truth" or just "Gate", it is said to be the source for all alchemical power.An alchemist who sees into the Gate can then perform alchemy without the use of a written or tattooed circle because of the knowledge gained during the experience. it is said that the Gate swings forward each time the energy for Alchemy is summoned, that there is a Gate inside everyone, and that all that is necessary to access the gate is knowledge of how to do so. It is also said that a weak link between the body, mind, and spirit is what calls the Gate - in other words, death


Human Sacrifice
it is a term that the Homunculi use to refer to alchemists who have opened the Gate and seen the Truth. Human Sacrifices are a crucial part of the Homunculi and "Father"'s plan, but to what end is still unknown.
http://www.musesrealm.net/deities/homunculi.html
Homunculi

Anonymous said...

http://www.headwatersinstitute.org/media/River%20Alchemy%20Vol.%201.pdf


RIVER ALCHEMY
Page 1
Forward
Alchemy was the medieval art of transforming base metals into gold.
Contrary to popular belief, it was not only practiced in the middle ages -
it is practiced every day - by all of us, in our own way.
We all strive to transform our simple every day existence into
something greater, something precious.
In search of this transformation, some of us have looked to the
River. In doing so we have discovered one of Earth's most subtle yet
powerful secrets...
River Alchemy

A drop of water is the base. But a river is more than drops of water.
Look beneath the surface. There is the past and the future, the headwaters
and the sea, a continuity that always flows and is always there.
A change takes place in that drop of water as it makes its way to
becoming a river. It is transformed from something base into something
precious. From this we can all learn and be inspired.



"The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning.”


Coniunctio provides this transcendence into unity by the process of dissolution of the body into water. "As the dissolution dissolves the bodies, thus the doubts of the philosophers are dissolved by knowledge." (Gerhard Dorn, 16th century)

In about 300 A.D., Zosimos provided one of the first definitions of alchemy:

Alchemy (330) ­ the study of the composition of waters, movement, growth, embodying and disembodying, drawing the spirits from bodies and bonding the spirits within bodies.


the alchemist not only experienced his own death, but also went on to envision his ensuing rebirth. This subsequent stage, the albedo, was illustrated by some as a baptism of fire; by others, as a *****baptism in water*****. Then again, some experienced it as a resurrection from the dead, while others saw it as emergence from the belly of the monster. In any case, the alchemist emerged once more from his mind's darkened depths, alive, purged, rejuvenated, reborn. This procedure was repeated (the citronitas and rubedo) until the alchemist achieved a momentary vision of the 'Alchemical-child'.


http://www.lcaruana.com/webtext/jourfar/jourfar8.html




The above i believe is a graphic illustration of the whole purpose of these drownings.
using a form of Alchemy ritual sacrifice USING THE STUDENTS to bring forth both a rejuvination and elixar of youth to old men and the appearence of children for them.

Anonymous said...

http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/alchemy%201.htm
ALSO ON ABOVE PAGE
IS A QuoTE FROM THE FALSE BOOK
THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS
THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS IS BEING SOLD ON ANOTHER ST JOHN MONKS WEBPAGE and not only does he sell it he co-wrote it!


Lynn C. Bauman, a convicted, admitted child molester and defrocked
Episcopal minister, is leading a his third retreat this week at the
Episcopal House of Prayer on the grounds of St. John's Abbey in
Collegeville. http://www.startribune.com/614/story/985703.html

his website with the gnostic false gospel depicting a false christ for sale and co written by him (just like the site above which likens the dark art of alchemy to christs work.)
http://www.praxisofprayer.com/

The Luminous Gospels: Thomas, Mary Magdalene, and Philip

Ancient Songs concise editionby Lynn C. Bauman, Ward J. Bauman, and Cynthia Bourgeault


The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning"

The King in alchemy represents man


A naked child symbolizes the innocent soul. In alchemy, the child is the offspring of the King and Queen
(The children of the outsiders they abuse in other words, for the king just represents man, and the king must drown.



Philosopher's Stone
A legendary stone said to allow the holder to completely bypass the law of Equivalent Exchange. As with all things, however, to create a philosoper's stone requires the expenditure of raw materials: in this case human lives.


Wilfred Theisen, OSB, is professor of
physics at Saint John’s University and
occasionally plays golf *****************************************

HTML VERSION
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:jPwUwdnvo1UJ:www.saintjohnsabbey.org/banner/0302fall.pdf+Wilfred+Theisen&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&ie=UTF-8&client=firefox-a




THE ABBY BANNER FALL 2003
by Wilfred Theisen, OSB. —a century of student disciplinary regulations. The Abbey Banner. Magazine of. Saint John's Abbey. Volume 3, Issue 2. Fall 2003
http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/banner/0302fall.pdf



Joshua guimond
ABDUCTED NOVEMBER 9th 2002

ST JOHNS ABBY MAGAZING
THE ABBY BANNER FALL 2002
http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/banner/0202fall.pdf

THE ABBY BANNER WINTER 2002
http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/banner/0203winter.pdf

no mention of joshua in either the fall 02 edition or the winter 02 edition.


Father Wilfred Theisen, who
has dabbled in ****astrology****, assuring the ‘99
squad at an early practice that the align-
ment of the planet Jupiter all but assured
a successful season

http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/banner/0102fall.pdf

Anonymous said...

Alchemy and centrality OF YOUNG KING/MAN and of HIS DROWNING IN ITS SYMBOLISM.



"The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning"



Crows are the symbols of the black phases of Calcination and Putrefaction. crucible .... The King in alchemy represents man, solar consciousness, or Sulfur see2

There are other alchemical symbols in Order of the Phoenix as well—the black king, for example. Kingsley Shacklebolt is not a token black character but an alchemical reference to the “black king.” The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning, and “at this stage the matter is at its blackest black and is known as the black king.”19

"The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning"
see1

"The King in alchemy represents man." see2


child

A naked child symbolizes the innocent soul. In alchemy, the child is the offspring of the King and Queen
(The children of the outsiders they abuse in other words, for the king just represents man, and the king must drown (see above).note3


see notes below for reference:


excerpts from

1,
The Alchemist’s Tale
Harry Potter & the Alchemical Tradition in English Literature
by John Granger
The black King must die, usually by drowning.
http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f

2,Alchemy Electronic Dictionary
The King in alchamy represents man
http://www.alchemylab.com/dictionary.htm#sectK

3 Alchemy Electronic Dictionary
The naked child son of the king(man).
http://www.alchemylab.com/dictionary.htm#sectC

THE BLACK ART OF ALCHEMY

http://www.saintjohnsabbey.org/images/photo_ordination06.jpg


50 Years Since Ordination as Priests

Father Wilfred Theisen OSB PICTURED ABOVE LINK

From Top (L to R): Father Angelo Zankl OSB; Father Edwin Stueber OSB; Father Wilfred Theisen OSB;

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/frm0250.html
THE ALCHEMY WEBSITE

Anonymous said...

“little king”
Black must die, usually by drowning.


“There are other alchemical symbols in Order of the Phoenix as well—the black king, for example. Kingsley Shacklebolt is not a token black character but an alchemical reference to the “black king.” The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning.”

After DH, it’s obvious the black king isn’t Kingsley Shacklebolt but rather Regulus “little king” Black.


Alchemic symbolism within modern english literature
http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=155


The Alchemist’s Tale

Harry Potter & the Alchemical Tradition in English Literature

by John Granger

Anonymous said...

Philosopher's Stone
A legendary stone said to allow the holder to completely bypass the law of Equivalent Exchange. As with all things, however, to create a philosoper's stone requires the expenditure of raw materials:

in this case human lives.


St johns abby MN
"one of the creepiest modern churches I've ever seen. It's a huge, cold, concrete structure that although it faces south, seems replete with satanic symbolism and boasts a crypt with a black marble altar"


I went to the Survivors of Clergy Abuse Linkup's convention that was hosted at St. John's Abbey back in 1993. There were a lot of sympathetic survivors and speakers but also many members of the hierarchy lurking about, too. I recall it well because I spoke out, the first use of the term "clergy ritual abuse" I think -- and I was later lied to outright by Fr. Liam Hoare, the head of the Servants of the Paraclete, one of the major players in the cover-up. One weird weekend...

Why I'm writing, though, is that they have one of the creepiest modern churches I've ever seen. It's a huge, cold, concrete structure that although it faces south, seems replete with satanic symbolism and boasts a crypt with a black marble altar. It gave me and the other RA survivor I explored the place with the willies bigtime. A very dark atmosphere...
www.employees.csbsju.edu/...chTour.htm

Afterwards, the Abbey ran an organization called ISTI concerning abuse in religious context for awhile, but few survivors I knew ever trusted it. I'm not surprised when the name of the Abbey surfaces -- I think they sponsored the event to cover their asses and see what the other side looked like.

BTW, the Abbey achieved much earlier infamy, I believe. The assassination of Lincoln was apparently publicly known there at least 6 hours before he was shot. Kinda makes you wonder.

Jay




YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT YOUR NOT LOOKING FOR

Knowing Beyond Knowing: The Heart of Hermetic Tradition

Now, child, you see me with your eyes. But as you look at my body and appearance you don't perceive what I am, because I can't be seen with those eyes.

http://www.goldensufi.org/a_pk_knowing.html



What does it mean? Why are they targeting me? Crazy, I must be crazy. Insane. Something wrong with me. They’re going to get me. I have to get a girlfriend before they get me.” Fear, despair, tortured dreams.

A high mountain with a huge castle built into its slopes. The path winds around and around as I visit the many rooms. Finally, I descend to the basement where I meet a priest. A youngish man in a black robe. He tells me that he has had a sex change operation and is now a woman. From the way he tells me the story it is clear that this change has not worked out as he had expected and that all is not well with him.


http://www.northofeden.com/writings/prima-materia-preparation












Prima Materia - Nigredo

THE LITTLE KING BLACK MUST DIE USUALLY BY DROWNING

Anonymous said...

Peter Burmeister

The nigredo or blackness is the initial state, either present from the beginning as a quality of the prima materia, the chaos, or massa confusa, or else produced by the separation (solutio, separatio, divisio, putrefactio) of the elements. (C.G. Jung. Psychology and Alchemy. CW 12. Para. 334.)

1949

Mountains and fields talk. Silent strident voices.

Adam loves and longs to roam them, living pioneer Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett, warrior Alan Breck of “Kidnapped,” King Arthur, Sir Gawain or settlers Conestoga traversing, loves especially summer sounds, summer smells: cricket and cicada, lowing Guernseys up to barbed fence border of family property eating through where it’s tall and greener than pasture-side like big sweet friendly dogs, but also big and Mom and Dad say dangerous so he keeps fearful away. Adam loves cows.


Ordeal of addiction, finally kicked. First skag then worse methadone, over now and he’s feeling strong, alive, blood coursing, child sometimes remembered. Morning already hot. Barefoot Adam calls Twinkle and they cross stream behind house, disappearing in forest. No one knows.

He tongues then swallows two tabs, they’ve have been in his pocket months, then boy and dog journey to discover America. Adam grabs Twinkle’s neck hair and holds her face close. She whines, licks his face, he sets her down, bounds away, out and back, runs to him, pretends biting toes. Adam laughs six year old boy lost laugh, so many years, and they walk. Barefoot summer Adam feels the way on rocky trail, winding in and out of shallow creek water, sensing each stone, toes laugh each step and path talks to Adam through soles.

He wants to sing, he does sing:

Glory, glory
Hallelujah
Since I lay my burden,
Lay my burden down.
Glory, glory
Hallelujah
Since I lay lay lay lay lay my burden down.

I’m goin’ home,
To live with Jesus
Since I lay my burden
Lay my burden down.

Glory glory.

Anonymous said...

Bird call, then again. Cupping left ear voice amplifies, twenty hundred more times louder. Turns head in direction of each birdcall in turn and hears and laughs boy laugh. Free. Drug free. Except for acid, but that’s not a drug drug, it’s the only good drug, consciousness drug, spirituality drug, path to God drug. Free. Adam and Twinkle discovering America drug.

20th century.

Heart hole, endless cavity, heart-surrounding. Adam needs love, needs love, there isn’t love enough in the universe to fill his void. The love of Linda is nothing, it isn’t love, leaves him wanting, leaves him lonely, leaves heart void.

Dramatic voice this poem:

Only when love and need are one
And the work is play for mortal stakes
Is the deed every really done
For heaven and the future’s sakes.

Cocking head Twinkle wonders if declaiming words are meant for her, decides they’re not, sniffs ground right and left of trail.

Adam wants to be pioneer, explorer, warrior,” Davy or Daniel or Alan or Arthur people, brave intrepid fearless people. Born too late for all that. Void in chest, hole in heart.

Song bursts, stout tenor, anguished, shouting:

Born too late for you to care
Now my heart cries
Because your heart just couldn't wait
Why was I born too late?

Born too late for you to care
Now my heart cries
Because your heart just couldn't wait
Why was I born too la-a-a-a-ate?
Why was I born too late?

Too late.

Born too late too late too late. Too late for everything, too late for life desired, too late for life. Life over, total loss, 22 failed everything and now life is over over over. He rock sits and weeps and weeps and weeps and weeps for all his losses. Weeps for childhood and early promise and drug addiction and near death. Weeps for mother and father and he disappointed them and they disappointed him. Weeps for brother and sister and wishes he could love them and be loved. He can’t have any of it, Adam can’t have love, will never have.

He looks at stream through teary vision blur. Shallow pool. Three large fish on bottom, waiting, heads face languid current, waiting. For what waiting?

He picks a pebble and hard throws. Ripples. Fish unmoving. Throws another and another, each larger, roiling water a bit more before it sinks, leaving pool again placid.

“I’m nothing, nobody. Years pass, centuries, millennia, doesn’t matter. I’m nobody. No one knows who I am, no one will ever know. I’m just one in an endless stream of protoplasm, like fish. Life meaningless, meaningless. I’m nobody nobody nobody.”

Throwing stones each time ripples reach pool edge and disappear like he will when he dies, none noticing, none caring, ripples in tiny pool in unknown unnamed stream in forest no one knows.


http://www.northofeden.com/writings/prima-materia-nigredo

Anonymous said...

peoms previous by alchemists ellude to the boy dying in the stream of a creek

Anonymous said...

also same author eludes being targetted by group of gay students and then to meeting a monk in crypt and the monk advancing sexually then becoming his lover in another "secret hidden" form.
Noter all this is written by a practioner of alchemy, the sme writer wrote of the boy and the creek above going to death and the "black" which eludes too the putrefication of a drowned corpse!

qOUTE FROM ALCHEMIC TEXTS OF A RITUAL
The little king must die , usually by drowning.




What does it mean? Why are they targeting me? Crazy, I must be crazy. Insane. Something wrong with me. They’re going to get me. I have to get a girlfriend before they get me.” Fear, despair, tortured dreams.

A high mountain with a huge castle built into its slopes. The path winds around and around as I visit the many rooms. Finally, I descend to the basement where I meet a priest. A youngish man in a black robe. He tells me that he has had a sex change operation and is now a woman. From the way he tells me the story it is clear that this change has not worked out as he had expected and that all is not well with him.


http://www.northofeden.com/writings/prima-materia-preparation

Anonymous said...

AN ALCHEMIST POETRY

(The same author in an above post )

in this he eludes too being targetted by group of gay students

nOTE - IN THE FULL TEXT HE MENTIONS SEMINARY STUDENTS BEING AT THE COLLEGE HE ATTENDS)

I BELIEVE THE ABOVE PERSON HAS IN REL LIFE SOMEHOW GOT INVOLVED WITH A GANAG OF ALCHEMY PRACTICING HOMOSEXUAL PREISTS

HE HIMSELF IN TORMENTED BY HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THEM and his dream life is full of demonic influences because of his participation.

his writings disclose this if you read them

he actually posted all this on a dream site
dream sites and retreats are hled by alchemists who post on th same site as th e st johns preist.

Anonymous said...

The signfiicance of fountains in alchemic rituals.



WHOS IS TOO SAY WHAT HAPPNED TO THE VICTIMS WHOS CLOTHERS WERE FOUND NEAR FOUNTAINS
OR THE VICTIMS WHO DRWONED IN FOUNTAINS

The Alchemy web site on Levity.com
(SAME WEBSITE THAT THE MONK FROM ST JOHNS POSTED AT BY THE WAY )

Splendor Solis. Image 3 - The Knight on the double fountain
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/images/ss3.jpg

Anonymous said...

Josh Guimond Missing Novemeber 9th 2002


The Scorpio New Moon on November 9th squares Neptune, which symbolizes cosmic oneness. This square heightens intuition, but also signals the need to let go of cherished illusions and step into unknown territory. Scorpio is the time of year when we dig deep to find out what we're made of, what's really important. Something needs to die and be reborn. The fiery dragon of change is sweeping through our lives to burn away the old.

Scorpio is the sign of magic, an alchemical process that happens deep within.

Anonymous said...

The rituals of alchemy are very pat to the rituals we see in the smiley face drwoning.


The fact of Honoured monks at st johns actively studying and writing in journals seriously on the practive of the black art of alchemy, should not only shock catholics, it should shock the smiley investigation team into action, for it shows yet another link to st johns abbey collegeville MN.



The Alchemist’s Journey Through Time, Space and Forever The following 16 pages is a section of Chapter One from the 22 chapter work. It recounts the story of Western alchemy,


A Vision of Renewal Plate Seven:
Drowning King in the Waters & Young King on the Bank,
Rejuvenated -

Dying to be Reborn PART TWO: CONJUNCTION; TWO AS ONE; DISMEMBERMENT, then CLEANSING in 4 parts

Dr Mary Ann Ghaffurian. Alchemical Ways

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8730716/Dr-Mary-Ann-Ghaffurian-Alchemical-Ways

Anonymous said...

How the bodies be dissolved into Argent Vive of Philosophers that is into water.


The Third Chapter.
How the bodies be dissolved into water and is made a new body.


The Fourth Chapter.
Here is made the putrefaction of Philosophers which was never seen and is called sulphur.


The Sixth Chapter.
How this earth black shall stand upon the water in the beginning, and by little and little is drowned in their profundity.


The Eighth Chapter.
How the Dragon is born in blackness and is fed with his Mercury and killeth himself and is drowned in the same and the water is somewhat made white.



The Ninth Chapter.
Here is the water cleansed wholly from blackness and remaineth in the colour of milk, and many colours doth appear in the blackness.
******the black king
the king represents man
the king must die usually by drowning students are men and philosophers
see above posts for this-

Anonymous said...

y for yello yelloh yellow


- Y -

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/donumdei.html
from same website as the monk at st johns posted on

from the alchemy dictionary
Yellow Phase

The Yellow Phase (or Xanthosis) of alchemy is an intermediate stage that takes place between the Black and White phases of the Great Work.


http://www.alchemylab.com/dictionary.htm#sectP

Anonymous said...

catholcism is not christianity
Jesus is the only name to be saved by the only name to use in any prayer and no idols are pleasing to God
man is not God nor or men to be looked too for help
for my help comes from the Lord and The Lord is God and Jesus Christ is Lord!

Anonymous said...

The Moon in Alchemy and Magic

In astrology the Moon, whether male or female is seen as having great power. Astrologers spend part of their time predicting what the effects of that power will be human and terrestrial activity. Astrologers encourage people to observe the power of the planets to do things at certain times when the stars are propitious. Inevitably this leads to speculation as to whether the same power can be harnessed. At this point astrology tips over into Magic.

The moon is an essential element in the most important text relating to alchemy. That text is known as the Emerald Tablet

http://thebookofthemoon.com/magic.htm

Anonymous said...

HERMUS said the secret of everything and the life of everything is Water....

.. The begining of the child is from water.... Regarding this spiritual water and the sanctified and thirsty earth, HERMUS the great, crowned with the glorious wisdom and the sublime sciences, said [#1] Truth it is, indubtible, certain and correct, [#2] that the High is from the Low and the Low is from the High.

They bring about wonders through the one, just as things are produced from that one essence by a single preparation. Later by his statement

[#4] Its father is the Sun and its mother the Moon he meant their male and their female.

They are the two birds which are linked together in the pictures given regarding the beginning of the operation, and from them the spiritual tinctures are produced.






And similarly they are at the end of the operation. Later in his statement [#7 ?] the subtle is more honourable than the gross, he means by the subtle the divine spiritual water; and by the gross the earthly body




The natural operation and decay causes it to be manifest, and hence the strength of the earth, and of the air, and of the higher fire passed in to it. Later he said [#9] it will overcome the high and the low because it in it is found the light of lights: and consequently the darkness will flee
from it. [See Stapleton et al. p 74, 81.]



Emerald Tablet of Hermes
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/emerald.html
Again, above is from same website that the st johns monk posted at.




*****
SFK RELEVENCE

I believe they could be obtaining their tinctures from water from the bodies of students ,

probably from their mouths or other orifices they put water into, this could even be in a form of drink they force on them before they place them in the river for the drowning of the little king ceremony or they could do this first in a ritual bath.
*************

Anonymous said...

*****
SFK RELEVENCE

I believe they could be obtaining their tinctures from water from the bodies of students ,

probably from their mouths or other orifices they put water into, this could even be in a form of drink they force on them before they place them in the river for the drowning of the little king ceremony or they could do this first in a ritual bath.
*************

It is key too remeber the fact that the image of alchemy as being practised in a laboraory by an ancient medieval scientist was only invented after the practive was exposed as contrary to roman catholic doctrines and so in the interest of public relations, this image of alchemy was progulated for public consmuption.

yet in even then in the original texts the vessels used by the alchemist were protrayed by words which were derived from the names of parts of the human body .

Anonymous said...

Alchemy is called, among other things, the Black Art in reference to its alleged Egyptian origin. It is also called the Hermetic Art or Hermeticism

ALCHEMY
THE BLACK ART

By David Cherubim.
Copyright � 1999 e.v.
All rights reserved.

Written in 1994 e.v.
Los Angeles, CA, USA.

INTRODUCTION

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
the satanic law!!!!!!!!!!

http://davidcherubim.net/alchemy.htm

monkia777 you are known and exposed you liar!!!
so just shut up!

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous re: alchemy

I left the post at 2:41, thanks for following up with the interesting links. So are you saying that you believe the priests at St. John's may be modern day followers of alchemy, but not so much in the philosophical sense of transmuting metals into gold, but more in a black arts way? Interesting hypothesis; I'd like to know more about it. How do you think this fits in with the victims?





hi
It is not only supected there is a serious interest in alchemy at st johns uni and abby. it is proven,
also at the alchemy site aswell as Father Wilfred Theisen OSB other monks post also on the same site.

nner Alchemy e-mail group archive
February 1997.
Back to Inner archive . Back to E-mail groups.

Subject: INNER - Interpreting symbols
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 15:13:47 -0500
From: Br.Athanasius


As too the connections between the 80 odd drowning deaths and the various different circumstances of victim location , dress, general profile and perviceved furture roles , and the dark symbolism and ultimate occult goal found within alchemy, the connections are astonishingly apt.

Anonymous said...

examples



qoutes


"Has anyone
read anything about Grunewald and alchemy? Some say his imagery was
directly influenced by St. Bridget of Sweden's Revelations"


"A Study on the St. Anthony
Triptych". I am told that Bergman's piece analyzes how alchemical processes
were thought to be analogous to the Christian mysteries."



The various writings on the mysterious meanigs behind Alchemy and the theory the smiley face killers are using a coruption of amongst of things christian baptism, is just one inidicator of its relevence to unravelling the peculair motivation of the rituals involved in the drowning deaths of young princes or young kings , so too speak..





Also the goals of alchemy to bring forth the "Alchimical child"., if seen in the context of st johns abuse of not only of college aged men but pre teen males also is very telling. More so if one studies the various deeper aspects of the sexual aspects of what is called the true nature of Alchemy.

qoute from alchemy website

"This subsequent stage, the albedo, was illustrated by some as a baptism of fire; by others, as a baptism in water. Then again, some experienced it as a resurrection from the dead."


"In any case, the alchemist emerged once more from his mind's darkened depths, alive, purged, rejuvenated, reborn. This procedure was repeated (the citronitas and rubedo) until the alchemist achieved a momentary vision of the 'Alchemical-child'."



Again and again while i have been researching alchemy and reading those who are taking part in its teachings, i have been struck with just how prevelant the assocaition they make too its processes, with that of the work of christ, which in its very nature was vicrious on behalf of man.

Therefore knowing the very fanatical and drug like quest described in the various works on and about those who pursue the great work to reach the Stone by the river, the total enlightmement so too speak and the total power.
And also knowing the deep and dark relationship between ALCHEMY AND NECROMANCY, i consider it almost obvious that any who could actually murder and any who sourght to gain power through dark arts or a any practice of such satanic occult crafts such as alchemy, i see how they could be endevouring to use it as a means for their SICK GOALS.
And if anyone has looked into st johns terrible history , they know what those GOALS ARE.


More importantly, what Alchemy and Christianity share in common is the ritual of 'the opus' and 'the mass'. Each of these involves a ritual sacrifice. During the opus, the alchemist sacrifices himself - twice dies and is reborn unto himself - to realize, finally, his own inner perfection. This is marked by the appearance of the 'Alchemical-child. *******************

.... The King in alchemy represents man, .” The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning, and “at this stage the matter is at its blackest black and is known as the black king.”19

the flesh is at its blackest after the drowning and putrefication stage.
the goal of the killing of the king
by drwoning is the coming of the child.

A naked child symbolizes the innocent soul. In alchemy, the child is the offspring of the King and Queen

(or in other words the children of man )

Deep occultists use the occult for serious objective goals.
And do not forget even the act of child abuse is again a form of ritual , inturn performed to gain futher occultic powers.

Anonymous said...

NECROMANCY THE SISTER OF ALCHEMY ACCORDING TO DA VINCI.


In the The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci, it is stated that:

Of all human opinions that is to be reputed the most foolish which deals with the belief in Necromancy, the sister of Alchemy
(taken from 12:13)

Anonymous said...

Incommon with all practice of occult arts,if you read up on alchemy, you will see by its very nature it is flexible according to the purpose of its practitioners, as long as the myraid of rituals are followed in the general sense, alchemy is a both philosphical sexual and practical phycological demonic belief and practice and its methods and themses and symbols could be very easily used in a vicarious human sacrifice one behalf of the practitioner to obtain his goal of the stone.

Ofcourse this would be done by psychopaths.

Anonymous said...

the sfkillers would be psychos would they not
and also the occutic elements have been noted.
now we have spcific evidecne of an occultic practice linked straight oo the cases via st johns abby.

Anonymous said...

THE PLACE OF THE MOON IN REGARD TO THE SMILEY FACE DROWNING AND ALCHEMY

n alchemical images, the symbolism is always vital and eclectic. Frequently, moons and women are proximate, crescents and full moons with women in varying stages of dress. But, not all free-floating moons can be said to have female faces (some are even bearded!), and sometimes men hold moons, particularly when two fused androgyne-like figures are both male. Simply stated, the gender alignments in alchemical philosophy and imagery are both clear and convoluted, and each document or image must be considered within the context of the time that produced it.


THE ROLE OF THE MOON IS THE DROWNINGS OF THE YOUNG KINGS

FOR THOSE BORN AT NIGHT THE MOON DOMINATES THEIR ASTROLOGICAL CHART

Seeing the alchemists must drwon the black king with the goal obtaining too the great work , the appearence of the alchemical child and obtaning the stone. In regards to the drownings of young men taking place not in the light of the sun , for the young king is the solar -the man. it is evident the baptism and or ressurection the killers seek is to be a new life dominated entirely by the forces occultism ascribes to the astrological powers of ONE BORN AT NIGHT UNDER THE ASTROLOGICAL POWERS OF THE MOON AS GODDESS.

In relation too the above it is interesting to note that all the killings happen when the moon is relatively slim as opposed to full, this choosing of a slim moon is not only practical in the respect of a good cover for non detection of the crimes, it has another meaning that is again connected too the dark aspects of st johns abuse. For
Quote
This conern for brightness is important in the sense that it realates to the moon cycle, or more accurately the solar luner cycle. When the moon is a slender crescent she is the goddess of the nymph of maiden still young virgin and without a partner- in other words the scarifice taking place of the drwoning of the young king in water under a slender moon sometimes crescent, sometimes quarter instead of full, perfectly relates to the goal of the sacrifice, the coming forth of alchemic child and the obtaning of the stone.

"The king must die to bring forth the child"
note it says usually by dronwning.
As it says usually we can see this fits, but as in the smily face drownings so with the stipulation of the texts of alchemy, sometimes the killing of the king is not by drowning.

The case with the closest connection to this revelation of how closeley the smiley face drownings so closely shadow the rituals described within the practice of alchemy, was NOT A DROWNING!- st johns was the reason for this discovery of the links between the drwoning deaths and there similarity too the rituals of alchemy. The choosing of st johns abby case to not invlve drwning is another obvious indicator of purposfull attempts of non association because of st johns crucial central role and closeness in regards to all evidecne that could blow the cover of the operation.


In the above, the aspect of the slim to quater moon chosen by the smiley killers for the drowning of the young kings

that slim moon symbolzing a vigin child is the important point i tried to convey.


for it relates to the disired goal of the glimpse or coming of the genric child too the practioner of the ritual.

With the true nature of alchemy being said to have a deep sexual componenet to its purpose makes this sense.

And as i have stated before , even before i came accross this evidence of monks at st johns having alchemy interests.

I said i believed the occultic goals of the satanic element of the smiley face killings were related to an attempt to regain the power to continue with abuse of children aswell as young adults /colleg aged men etc.

The alchemic rituals describes this in a very obvious way, or at least can be credibly inteprated as doing so with little persuasion.

SEE
http://books.google.com/books?id=tCD-yep1orsC&lpg=PA86&ots=Xzav5cQ2xB&dq=ROLE%20OF%20THE%20MOON%20IN%20DROWNING%20ALCHEMY&ie=ISO-8859-1&pg=PA94

Anonymous said...

yet in even then in the original texts the vessels used by the alchemist were protrayed by words which were derived from the names of parts of the human body .

This is not only obvious , it is key to alchemy itelf.

Anonymous said...

"The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning"


"The King in alchemy represents man."


child

A naked child symbolizes the innocent soul. In alchemy, the child is the offspring of the King and Queen
(The GENERAL children MAN of the outsiders they abuse in other words, for the king just represents man, and the king must drown

TO BRING FORTH THE COMING OF THEV ALCHEMIC CHILD WHO IN TURN LEADS TO THE STONE BY THE RIVER.



And in relation to the above we have evidence that indeed the coming of a child to the abby is indeed a goal their .

The witness statement of someone somehow involved in a pedophile ring that incorperated accordng to the report both a occultic aspects and the sharing by a group at the abby of st johns of an abducted elven year old boy.

Shows how the symbolisms described in the alchemy texts could be used in the hope of orchestrating such crimes as the witness said he was witness too or had knoweldge of involving both use of the occult, and that is exactly what alchemy is, and the abuse of a child, as was Jaco Wetterling, by the abuse ring at st johns.


What i find equally amazing is this, at the very time the smiley face drownings stated to occue in the late 1990's the very leader of st johns abby eluded too them in a speach totally unrelated to the drwonings and he linked it directly to child and college age abuse by preists , some of whom were from st johns itself!!
This cannot be a coincidence and is more than a sick joke, it in itself could be seen by occultists as another attempt too actaully harness occultic powers by making such a directly related point at a meeting that was meant to be called to put a stop too the eperdemic of such abuse.

kinneys'speech given 1999 at the opening of the international sexual abuse conference held at st johns
"
To show the need for this in-depth study, Bishop Kinney recounted the story of a person who rescues someone who is drowning in a river, then rescues a second person and a third person. Finally, the rescuer walks away from the scene. "A bystander approaches and asks in surprise where is going, to which, the rescuer replies: 'I am going upstream to find out who's pushing all these people in and see if I can stop it!'"

FULL SPEECH OF WHICH THE ABOVE DROWNING ANALOGY IS TAKEN FROM BY KINNEY IS HERE

http://philia.ws/ph/99/06a.htm

Anonymous said...

THE STONE BY THE RIVER OR OTHWISE KNOWN AS

The Philosopher's Stone
A legendary stone said to allow the holder to completely bypass the law of Equivalent Exchange.

You see that?

"to allow the holder to completely bypass the law of Equivalent Exchange"



As with all things, however, to create a philosoper's stone requires the expenditure of raw materials:

in this case human lives.

Anonymous said...

you see that?

"in this case human lives"

Anonymous said...

Incommon with all practice of occult arts,if you read up on alchemy, you will see by its very nature it is flexible according to the purpose of its practitioners, as long as the myraid of rituals are followed in the general sense, alchemy is a both philosphical sexual and practical phycological demonic belief and practice and its methods and themses and symbols could be very easily used in a vicarious human sacrifice one behalf of the practitioner to obtain his goal of the stone.

Ofcourse this would be done by psychopaths.


the sfkillers would be psychos would they not?

and also the occultic elements have been noted by the sfk investigative team.
now we have specific evidence of the occultic practice alchemy being linked straight too the cases via st johns abby istelf.



"The king must die to bring forth the child"


also

.... The King in alchemy represents man, .”

The king of the alchemical work must die, usually by drowning,

and “at this stage the matter is at its blackest black and is known as the black king.”19

note** it says usually by drownning.


As it says usually we can see this fits with the sfk cases, but as in the smily face drownings so with the stipulation of the texts of alchemy, sometimes the killing of the king is not by drowning.



The case with the closest connection to this revelation of how closeley the smiley face drownings so closely shadow the rituals described within the practice of alchemy, was discovered by my investigation of one of the SFk cases that was NOT A DROWNING!-

Josh Guimonds case at st johns abby was the reason for this discovery of the links between the drowning deaths and there similarity too the rituals of alchemy.


The choosing of st johns abby case to not involve drowning STANDS OUT A MILE!!!!!

And is another obvious indicator of purposfull attempts of non association because of st johns crucial central role and closeness in regards to all evidecne that could blow the cover of the operation which i now believe in its occultic aspects almost certainly involve rituals ascribed by Alchemy.

Anonymous said...

UNVEILED AT LAST!!!!

ALCHEMY THE INNER SMILE


OF

"The happy evil smiling faced man"


What is the Inner Smile? Man without smiling face should not open a shop. ... Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret ....

Historically, the Inner Smile was a foundation practice of Daoist
neidan gong, or “inner elixir skill”. Today, we translate it simply as
“inner alchemy”, meaning the science of changing oneself.

The Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret “inner alchemy
formulas” or stages of spiritual development. (For a full description
of these meditation formulas, see “Secrets of Immortality” article on
www.HealingDao.com
homepage).

Anonymous said...

THE BLACK KING MUST DIE USUALLY

BY DROWNING
TO BRING FORTH THE CHILD

Anonymous said...

you cannot see what your not looking for


UNVEILED AT LAST!!!!
the smile of the killers




ALCHEMY THE INNER SMILE


OF

"The happy evil smiling faced man"


What is the Inner Smile? Man without smiling face should not open a shop. ... Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret ....

Historically, the Inner Smile was a foundation practice of Daoist
neidan gong, or “inner elixir skill”. Today, we translate it simply as
“inner alchemy”, meaning the science of changing oneself.

The Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret “inner alchemy
formulas” or stages of spiritual development. (For a full description
of these meditation formulas, see “Secrets of Immortality” article on
www.HealingDao.com
homepage).

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The phrasology and CONCEPT of the
THE EVIL HAPPY SMILEY FACED MAN
IS ENTIRELY OF NIETZSCHE .


Nietzsche and his Übermensch. "Bose Weisheit. Aphorismen und spruche", ARE STUDIED BY ALCHEMISTS .


Evil people can be "happy" in this world- thay can be rich, famous, selfish, their asses are in a worm place, and thay do not need anything but themselves- their infinite space of their minds.
This concept of a evil happy smiling man is Nietzsche, through and through.


“The teaching is complete and perfect, although it wears many garments” (Halevi, 16).

This is true in that in the grand, or Divine scheme, everything is related. One of these garments that the teaching may be disguised in is the pursuit of Alchemy. Almost as old as Qabablistic study, Alchemy is yet another esoteric pursuit which holds striking similarities to both Nietzsche and the Qabalah.

Anonymous said...

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~panopus/jeannie/alchemy%20&%20daoism.html

Alchemy and Daoism
©2001 Jeannie Radcliffe

Daoist mystical philosophy would seem to have little to do with something as pragmatic yet experimental such as alchemy. Yet the one thing they both have in common is the search for immortality. Alchemy did this through the search for the immortal tincture that contained the essence of the universe whilst the Daoist sages contemplated the Dao through breathing exercises and diet. Using material substances to create the gold of immortality, the alchemists created highly toxic substances that had to be consumed ritually in careful doses, after much preparation and instruction. Of what use has a sage for gold? How could a sage afford alchemy with it's need for expensive equipment and ingredients? Yet we will see that Daoism and alchemy have been intertwined since the earliest records of the Han Dynasty.



Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Daoist thought: crossing paths in-between - Google Books Result
http://books.google.com/books?id=GA9wImRqv9AC&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=Daoism+neitsche&source=bl&ots=Ekoc_SAYbU&sig=ohPGTCWO5oLwancDvzGpxkJUxYA&hl=en&ei=5nheSuHbPIy4M7-4tK4C&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3


http://www.daoiststudies.org/dao/node/6764

Although Nietzsche and Daoism match quite well for both Western and Chinese philosophers, they match in different ways and for different purposes

Anonymous said...

Excerpts from the book

The alchemy of Healing by Edward C Whitmont


THE CONCEPT OF THE HEALING SACRIFICE WITHIN ALCHEMY IS DESCRIBED


"In this sense they are not only invividuals offering their "selves" but also include the offering of prizd objects, valuables, jewlery, a beloved animal, etc., and the deliberate"premature" surrender before their life appointed time to the destructive aspect inherent in the life cycle of plants, animals, food or potential healing medicines."

.."the junk of society , were chosen to substitute for the "pharmakos," or healer. They became the sapegoats and were offered up to destruction for the weal of the community."



THE AUTHOR SEES SELF GIVING WILLING SACRIFICE AS GOOD.

In ecologically balanced systems, vicarious offerings of self, partially or wholly, in return for receiving the gift of the offering of others (minareal. palnt and animal life) serve mutual nutritive and healing needs.

They are expressions of the wholeness field of the encompassing organism of which we are all parts and cells, mutually supporting, sustaining and containing one another."


HE TALKS OF EQUAL EXCHANGE YET THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF ALCHEMY IS TOO ATTAIN THE STONE BY THE RIVER , BY WHICH YOU GET ALL AND BYPASS THE LAWS OF EQUAL EXCHANGE.

Anonymous said...

So with the above in mind, it is easy to see first the contradiction of the nature of the holy grail all alchemists seek, for it is a search for an alixer of life that will free them from the laws of equal exchange , thus making them superior to the natural order of things, i.e immortal and with all needs met in defiance of the laws of equal exchange, in other words all can be theres without any giving back if they attain the stone.

Secondly, it is easy to see how a alchemist who is able too murder, can distort (or understand) what the author has written on the subject of willing sacrifice of self and things and take it too its ultimate end for reason of obtaining the stone that he believes will set him free from all natural and physical laws, through being free of the alws of antural exchange which bind the alchemists until he attaines the ston by the river, which is the quest of all alchemists and is too them belived to equal to heaven yet with all worldy power and every lust fulffiled.

(It has nothing to do with turning metal in gold)

Thirdly , the author himself may be masking to outsiders concepts of acceptance of actual human sacrifice his brother alchemists already accept.
If you go and read fully how the author has written on the this subject, that idea he is signalling his own acceptence of the deepest secrets of alchemic symbolism to ther adepts, is easily possible. for is you carefully read his justifications and philosphical wanderings on the subject of sacrifice in the natural order or the world , his meaning could be easily interpretated as such to the knowing ones.

Anonymous said...

another quote from the book;

"Alchemy stresses that non human substances -the dematerialized earth substances - participate vicariously in a mysterious tranformation."


(the above would be a reference to water in the case of the sfkillings)

"Alchemy sees 'spiritualized" substances as able to become pontifex,"bridge builder"-to the stone

The above goes on to refer too the philosphers stone being obtained the spiritual.

Actuall first would be the COMING OF THE CHILD afer the sacrificecial murder of the little black king , usually by drwoning.

The the stone comes afterwards, but the writer is not trying to be chronological, he is just explaining what part spirit as opposed to eathly substances play in alchemy rituals.

"The healer -god is hidden in the equally powerful pattern of the suffering pharmakos -scapegoat"




In regards to the constant reference to scapegoat.

On the alchemy website where the preist from st johns posted, there is a section on tarrot it is interesting that the scapegoat refered to above in the false occult works of alchemy, could be seen as the drunken fool of the tarot.

For although True chrisianity and judaism before it is where the IDEA AND term SCAPEGOAT and vicarious sacrifice originate, it is obvious alchemy being an occultic alternative to the true way of jesus christ and goood news of his vicarious sacrifice for mankind and by faith in his name alone being the true spiritual path to heaven
They deny it by their following of alchemy
for too them heaven is the stone as thy call it, they would make the very connection to the role of the scapegoat who took the guilt of the people way in judaism, not to christ but too the black king or too a drowned drunken college student or the drunken fool, the drunken fool of the tarot.


After all on the very website the preist from st johns wrote on , they have a whole section on tarot for alchemists study tarot aswell as nietche and others black arts and the various works of occultists in general.



Death as godfather is the spiritual father or intiator of the physician (chapter 7) .
The doctor is taught by death.

last qoute speaks for itself.

The analogy can be understood by the question IS WHY USE IT ?

It is overt and yet could be a secret nod to other adepts also.

In anycase it is a sick way of explaining things.


THE INTRUDER

"
In embodying the healer archetype with its wounding aspect and offering his own illness propensity as a smilil, the healer also embodies and provides the sickness- inducing, intrusive aspect of the archetypal illness field."

"Apollo, the healer and father of asclepius, the archetypal physician, is a destroyer, a source of illness in the iliad.

In reverse of apollos oracle, the healer can also wound."

END OF QUOTES.

Well that proves much to me anyway, even those practioners of alchemy who are writing on alchemic healing are sick bastards just like the rest of them.


the link to the book is here,


http://books.google.com/books?id=xApXusGSy_cC&pg=PA162&lpg=PA162&dq=actual+human+sacrifice+alchemy&source=bl&ots=CTVgS6f-6Y&sig=MzOTd4aOlAkPfCqDa6wazFx8Vms&hl=en&ei=2npeSsSjHZGsNrauva4C&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10

Anonymous said...

if you go too the website the preist worte on, you will see the tarot section and also if you look at the index of alchemy subjects
you will see papers by various authors on alchemy
scroll down and look for the paper discussing the relationship to tarot and alchemy.

also by the way of you go too the tarot seciotn you will see pages of coloured illustrations of taros cards,
there you can see for yourself
THE DRUNKEN FOOL

Anonymous said...

FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/

Anonymous said...

"The healer -god is hidden in the equally powerful pattern of the suffering pharmakos -scapegoat"




In regards to the constant reference to scapegoat.

On the alchemy website where the preist from st johns posted, there is a section on tarrot it is interesting that the scapegoat refered to above in the false occult works of alchemy, could be seen as the drunken fool of the tarot.

For although True chrisianity and judaism before it is where the IDEA AND term SCAPEGOAT and vicarious sacrifice originate, it is obvious alchemy being an occultic alternative to the true way of jesus christ and goood news of his vicarious sacrifice for mankind and by faith in his name alone being the true spiritual path to heaven
They deny it by their following of alchemy
for too them heaven is the stone as thy call it, they would make the very connection to the role of the scapegoat who took the guilt of the people way in judaism, not to christ but too the black king or too a drowned drunken college student or the drunken fool, the drunken fool of the tarot.

Anonymous said...

also by the way of you go too the tarot seciotn you will see pages of coloured illustrations of taros cards,
there you can see for yourself
THE DRUNKEN FOOL


FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/


ALSO
http://www.brysons.net/academic/tempest.html

Alchemy, Witchcraft, and the Magus Figure in The Tempest

Both the exoteric and esoteric traditions within alchemy were concerned with transformation. Transformation, especially through "mystical" or "magical" experiences, is a constant theme in The Tempest.

THE DRUNKEN FOOLS THE DROPSY DROWN THIS FOOL!

Ok, I can see Prospero as a magician, but how does he fit into the role of alchemist?

"The dropsy drown this fool! What do you mean / To dote thus on such luggage?" (V.i.230,231) asks Caliban of Trinculo and Stephano as they argue over the possession of a gown instead of following through on the previously-plotted murder of Prospero

The theme of the sea-change runs throughout the play. Prospero himself suffers this sea-change as he journeys from being the newly-usurped Duke of Milan who "deck'd the sea with drops full salt" (I.ii.155) to being the wise and wizened magus who puts "the wild waters in [the] roar" that brings the ship to his island, then finally to being the man who forgives his wrongers in V.i.
Caliban suffers a variety of sea-change as he comes to the realization that Stephano and Trinculo are merely drunken sots, not gods as he asked Trinculo to be at II.ii149. As Caliban wades through the pool that smells "all horse-piss" (IV.i.199), he sees Trinculo and Stephano for the drunken fools they are: "The dropsy drown this fool! What do you mean / To dote thus on such luggage?" (V.i.230,231) asks Caliban of Trinculo and Stephano as they argue over the possession of a gown instead of following through on the previously-plotted murder of Prospero. Caliban's own last lines reveal a transformation into a character more aware than before of his tendency toward self-abasement: "What a thrice-double ass / Was I to take this drunkard for a god, And worship this dull fool!" (V.i.296-298).




Fortuna's Wheel

Another interesting theme that operates in The Tempest is that of the wheel of Fortuna, symbolized in cycles of twelve: twelve years of imprisonment for Ariel in "a cloven pine" (I.ii.277); twelve years of imprisonment for Prospero on the island; the twelve phases of the zodiac. This all comes together in I.ii.178-184: "By accident most strange, bountiful Fortune / (Now my dear lady) hath mine enemies / Brought to this shore; and by my presience / I find my zenith doth depend upon / A most auspicious star, whose influence / If now I court not, but omit, my fortunes / Will ever after droop."

Anonymous said...

The wheel of Fortune was a legacy to the Middle Ages from the second book of Boethius' Consolation of Philosophy. It took on many styles, from the delicately drawn miniatures of fine manuscripts to the huge rose windows of the cathedrals at Amiens and Basel. Fortuna herself is often drawn larger than the human figures, in accordance with medieval convention, to underscore her greater importance. The wheel is frequently absurd in its mechanics: Fortuna may propel it with a graceful touch of a spoke or with an awkward-looking crank; each revolution may be swift or require a full life-time.

The wheel usually bears on its rim four shelves of "stages" with four human figures.






THE ABOVE MENTIONED FORTUNAS WHEEL WAS ALSO THE BASIS FOR INVENTION THE TAROT CARDS



About Tarot

Print this page
ICONOLOGY OF THE WHEEL CARDS
by Dr. Robert O'Neill


http://tarot.com/about-tarot/library/boneill/wheel



COMPLETE LIST OF ALCHEMICAL TAROTS

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/tarota2.shtml

THE ALCHEMIC WEDDING
DEPICTS A MONKEY RUNNING WITH THE FOOL (DRUNKEN FOOL CARD)
A MONKEY IS A PART OF THE GRAFFITI EVIDENCE IS IT NOT?

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/di-purgatorio/
THE WEBSITE IS LINKING TOO Adam McLean OCCULTIST TOO BUY THE THE ALCHEMIC WEDDING

WHO ALSO

RUNS THE WEBSITE THE ST JOHNS MONK AND THER MONKS WRITE AT

This site is organised by Adam McLean, the well known authority on alchemical texts and symbolism, author and publisher of over 50 books on alchemical and Hermetic ideas.
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/

Anonymous said...

iF ANYONE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THIS ON ALCHEMY

STUDY THIS PICTURE
HERE

IT IS FROM THE WEBSITE THE MONK FROM ST JOHNS WRITES AND OTHER MONKS LASO (SEE ABOVE SOMEHWERE ON THE POSTS FOR PROOF THERE ARE OTHERS)

YES NOW LOOK AT THIS PICTURE WHICH DEPICTS ALCHEMISTS AT WORK


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl189.jpg

TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE!
"THE LITTLE KING MUST DIE.

USUALLY BY DROWNING."

Anonymous said...

AND ANOTHER FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_lb04.jpg

Anonymous said...

THE RITUAL OF PUTREFICATION

LITTLE KING BLACK
DEATH

TO LEAD TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE CHILD
THEN THE STONE BY THE RIVER

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_lb05.jpg

Anonymous said...

THE LITTLE KING MUST DIE
USUALLY BY DROWNING

BUT NOT ALWAYS

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/va08.jpg

Anonymous said...

THE TINCTURE TAKEN FROM THE LITTLE KING

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber05.jpg

Anonymous said...

THE CHILDREN EVEN USED
LOOK CAREFULLY


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber07.jpg

Anonymous said...

THE COMING OF THE ALCHEMIC CHILD

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber11.jpg

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER DEPICTION DIFFERENT ARTIST

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/atal34.jpg

JUST THINK OF THE SFKILLERS WITH THE BODIES IN THE RIVER PERFORMING THE RITUALS

THE ABOVE PIC IS JUST A DIFFERENT VARIATON OF THE PREVIOUS DROWNING OF LITTLE KING .

Anonymous said...

SAME AS ABOVE VARIATION OF THE DROWNING OF THE LITTLE KING

THIS TIME ALCHEMIC BOWL CONTAINS THE LITTLE KING JUST VARIATION

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ta04.jpg

Anonymous said...

THIS PICTURE IS PROCEEDING THE ONE ABOVE I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT UP FIRST

YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE KING ONTOP OF A MOUNTAIN WITH A WATERFALL
HE HAS THE SWORD HES IN RED

LITTLE KING IS BEING SURROUNDED AND FROCED TO FALL TO HIS DEATH TO BE DROWNED IN THE RIVER

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ta03.jpg
AND HES THE WHOLE SERIES SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IM SAYING IS TRUE

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/prints_series_terrestrial.html

Anonymous said...

THIS DEPICTES THE ALCHEMIST PROFITING FROM THE DEATH OF THE LITTLE KING
HES TAKEN THE TINCUTRE FROM THE DEAD CRWONED YOUNG MAN (LITTLE KING)

AND THE DEAD YOUNG LITTLE KING IS BLACK
PUTRIFIED FROM DROWNING DEAD.

THE ALCHEMIST BATHS IN A SOLUTION WITH THE TINCTURE HES OBTAINED THROUGH THE RITUAL, THE TINTURE IS OBTAINED FROM THE LITTLE KING- THE NOW DROWNED YOUNG MAN THAT IS.

THE ALCHEMIC BATHES IN TH E SOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE UP OF THE TINTURE FROM THE DEAD YOUNG MAN(LITTLE KING BLACK)

A YOUNG CHILD (PICTURED) A LITTLE BOY APPEARS TO HIM AND KNEELS AT HIS SERVICE.


THIS IS THE ALCHEMIC CHILD .


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ss11.jpg

Anonymous said...

re: anonymous on alchemy

I think people would find it helpful if you were to briefly summarize alchemy and your theory on it in one post rather than posting hundreds of bits of research here and on the Alexis Dillard post.

It's not that what you are saying isn't interesing or helpful, but I think maybe your message is getting lost in the way you are presenting it.

Anonymous said...

understand alchemy through the engravings that depict the alchemic rituals


anyone who DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THIS ON ALCHEMY
STUDY THe rituals easily through these pictures from the Alchemy site.
They are FROM THE same WEBSITE THE MONK FROM ST JOHNS, WILFRED THEISEN SB, ST. JOHN'S ABBEY, COLLEGEVILLE, MINNESOTA, WRITES.

OTHER MONKS also known at moment to write on the same alchemy site are
Br.Athanasius
and a Friar



LOOK AT THIS PICTURE WHICH DEPICTS ALCHEMISTS AT WORK IN THEIR LABS

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl189.jpg

TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE!
"THE LITTLE KING MUST DIE.

USUALLY BY DROWNING."




AND ANOTHER FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_lb04.jpg

THE KING MUST DIE USUALLY BY DROWNING
LITTLE KING BLACK
PUREFICATION


THE RITUAL OF PUTREFICATION
LITTLE KING BLACK
DEATH
LEADs TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE CHILD
THEN THE STONE BY THE RIVER
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_lb05.jpg







THE LITTLE KING MUST DIE
USUALLY BY DROWNING
BUT NOT ALWAYS

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/va08.jpg



THE TINCTURE TAKEN FROM THE LITTLE KING
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber05.jpg


THE CHILDREN EVEN USED
LOOK CAREFULLY
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber07.jpg


THE COMING OF THE ALCHEMIC CHILD
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/mutusliber11.jpg


ANOTHER DEPICTION DIFFERENT ARTIST
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/atal34.jpg

JUST THINK OF THE SFKILLERS WITH THE BODIES IN THE RIVER PERFORMING THE RITUALS

THE ABOVE PIC IS JUST A DIFFERENT VARIATON OF THE PREVIOUS DROWNING OF LITTLE KING .


this

SAME AS ABOVE VARIATION OF THE DROWNING OF THE LITTLE KING

THIS TIME ALCHEMIC BOWL CONTAINS THE LITTLE KING VARIATION f same part of ritual only this time making it look like the cover up- i.e its only about changing metals to gold which is a complete utter LIE!
read up on alchemy and you will see its a lie.
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ta04.jpg


THIS PICTURE IS PROCEEDING THE ONE ABOVE I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT UP FIRST

YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE KING ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN WITH A WATERFALL
HE HAS THE SWORD. HES IN RED

LITTLE KING IS BEING SURROUNDED AND ForCED TO FALL TO HIS DEATH TO BE DROWNED IN THE RIVER

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ta03.jpg

here is THE WHOLE SERIES SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IM SAYING IS TRUE

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/prints_series_terrestrial.html





THIS DEPICTES THE ALCHEMIST PROFITING FROM THE DEATH OF THE LITTLE KING.

HES TAKEN THE TINCUTRE FROM THE DEAD drowned YOUNG MAN (LITTLE KING)

THE DEAD YOUNG LITTLE KING IS now little king BLACK
PUTRIFIED FROM DROWNING .


THE ALCHEMIST then BATHS IN A SOLUTION WITH THE TINCTURE HE'S OBTAINED THROUGH THE RITUAL, THE TINTURE IS OBTAINED FROM THE LITTLE KING-

THE NOW DROWNED YOUNG MAN little king black THAT IS.

THE ALCHEMIC BATHES fully IN THE SOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE UP OF THE TINTURE FROM THE DEAD YOUNG MAN(LITTLE KING BLACK)

A YOUNG CHILD (PICTURED) A LITTLE BOY APPEARS TO HIM AND KNEELS AT HIS SERVICE.

THIS IS boy is THE generic ALCHEMICAL CHILD .
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_ss11.jpg

THE ABOVE IS A EASY TO UNDERSTAND COMPLETE ILLUSTRATED
DEPICTION OF THE ALCHEMIC RITUAL

Anonymous said...

Another incite

Maury writes:

Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:59:28 -0500
From: Flamel

....one of the names of the prima materia was "Adam's earth," which
> Maier tells us that Adam carried this earth away with him from
> Paradise. An old legend says that Adam, when driven out of Paradise,
> carried some of its soil away with him. This earth was said to be
> red, and "terra rubra," red earth, is also a name for the prima
> materia. The idea is that primeval man possessed a substance, a sort
> of earth, out of which Paradise could grow, and Adam carries the
> secret of this earth in himself.....


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/frm0250.html


prima materia IS EXTRACTED FROM THE LITTLE KING

Anonymous said...

THE DROWNED LITTLE KING
THE CROSS AND THE STONE AND HEAVENLY PARADISE

Fri Feb 09 09:11:13 1996
Subject: 0204 Locating the prima materia (3)

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:47:29 -0700
From: Patrick J. Smith


And, indeed, man did carry this mysterious substance within himself.

This was the breath of Life first breathed into the inanimate clay by
God. This is what Adam took with him from paradise..... Man, in this
sense, is indeed a Vessel, and has been so represented for many
centuries.

Once the alchemical Vessel has been Sealed; once the Universal
Principle has been localized; once the mercury has been fixed; once
the dragon of chaos has been slain; the First Stone is born. This is
represented variously as an epiphany---the manifestation of the
supernatural in the material world; as the birth of Christ; as the
Corner Stone of the Christian church; etc.


The hieroglyph of this
Stone is the cross---

the ground plan of the medieval cathedrals; the
cross of the ankh---the Egyptian symbol of the Life Principle; the
cross-hatched pattern on the epiphany cake; the cross-hatched pattern
on the belt of Oferus---the Christ bearer.

And yet this first Stone
is simply the Hermetically Sealed Vessel; it represents the embodiment
of the prima materia, and hence becomes analogous to man.


Fri Feb 09 09:11:13 1996
Subject: 0204 Locating the prima materia (3)

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:47:29 -0700
From: Patrick J. Smith
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/frm0250.html


"The little king represents man.
the little king must die, usually by drowning.."

Anonymous said...

YOU WANT TOO LOCATE THE PRIMA MATERIA YOU GOT TO GET INSIDE THE LITTLE KING
BY DROWNING HIM IN TO GET THE TINCTURE FROM HIM FOR IT CONTAINS THE PRIMA MATERIA TO KEY TO OBTAINING THE STONE!!
PARADISE.



Yet it is only at the
moment that the spirit is again released from its fixed state within
the Stone; only at the moment of the dissolution of the Stone; at the






And yet this first Stone
is simply the Hermetically Sealed Vessel; it represents the embodiment
of the prima materia,

and hence becomes analogous to man.

The Universal Spirit is thus trapped within the bottle---in which
state it assumes the image of an inextinguishable flame, and the Stone
the image of the Quenchless Hermetic Lamp. Yet it is only at the
moment that the spirit is again released from its fixed state within
the Stone; only at the moment of the dissolution of the Stone; at the
breaking of the Hermetic Seal which keeps the Universal Spirit within
its Vessel; only at this moment does the Stone exhibit its magical
properties.




As the Seal is broken, neg-entropic phenomena appear
within the material realm, and cellular de-differentiation and hence
rejuvenation within the biological realm. Hence the Stone holds the
promise of transmutation and rejuvenation. And thus can be understood
the ancient legends of spirits, or genii's, trapped within bottles,
lamps, or vessels of some sort. The fortunate traveller who discovers
the Vessel and sets the spirit free is most richly rewarded.....
breaking of the Hermetic Seal which keeps the Universal Spirit within
its Vessel; only at this moment does the Stone exhibit its magical
properties.

Having written the above, I noticed the following post (used with
permission) come across the Alexandria list, and was impressed by the
overall thematic similarity.

Mary Lynn Richardson writes:

> Your ancient gnarled oak, Robert, which temperately or intemperately has
> appeared in the courtyard of the Library of Alexandria: has it a spirit,
> bottled or otherwise? Have you yet scratched around the snakey roots to
> find out? A bottle such as might hold imprisoned the Spirit Mercurius.
> (Or even simple *vin ordinaire*, as we're picnicking again, it seems...)
>
> I ask for the last time passed sat by this tree I heard the
> throttled cries of an animating soul: a pitiful wail of "Let me out!
> Let me out." You know, of course, its a dangerous business, dealing
> with Mercurius. He's like as not try to strangle you for your pains.
> You need to be as quick of wit as he himself to survive. But should you
> nevertheless show mercy and let him out, the trick, you will remember,
> is to get him to prove his greatness by getting back in the bottle.
> This challenge he will not resist, and you must be fast and strong with
> the cork to imprison him again. Aah, but then he'll be ready to talk
> turkey, promising all manner of rewards if you let him out again.
> Strangely you may trust him this time. Strike the bargain, and be not
> too dismayed if it's a filthy old rag he gives you -- for legend has it
> that one side will turn all it polishes to silver, and the other side
> will heal any wound. 'Twill serve you well here in the delta city.
> --Mary Lynn Richardson / mlrichar@acs.ucalgary.ca / (403) 287 9213

-Patrick Smith
p-smith@advtech.slc.unisysgsg.com


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/frm0250.html

Anonymous said...

The above work i have posted on alchemy , my finding it through a link to a monk at st johns and the evidecne of other monks from other localities also posting at the alchemy site, and how the alchimic rituals so evidently match the drwonings of young men, is indespensable material for in the investigation into the msiley face killings.
I appeal stronglyto any of the real investigators to look at these posts, look at the evidecne and see how th alchemic ritual closly matches the drwoning, for the ritual involves drownings of what is termed the little king, a young man to death resulting in twisted baptism, all undertaken on behalf of the practioner of alchemy the alchemist.

go a few posts back and you will see an esay to follow step by step pictoral representation of the alchemic ritual which shows a young man being chases by a man with a club or dagger.

the young man being drwoned in a river- alternatively surrounded on a cliff top with a waterfall about to fall to his death.

the young man having fluids taken from his body

the young mans fluids being bathed in by the older alchemist.

then the arrival of the alchemic young child who serves the alchamist shown by his kneeling posture.

look at the links to the photos which show all this

please!

Anonymous said...

1. Ryan

A name, which is commonly both a first or last name, which is very often confused with Brian. Its Irish roots define the name as "little king".
Wow, Ryan, you are such a little king.

11/05/00: Ryan Katcher (IL)
12/31/97: Ryan Getz (MI)








Ryan Twit Definition of Ryan Share Definition of Ryan on Facebook Digg:Definition of Ryan! stumble Definition of Ryan Bookmark Definition of Ryan on Delicious submit Definition of Ryan to reddit Bookmark Definition of Ryan
proper noun

1. A common Irish surname.
2. (given name, male) derived from the surname, popular in all English-speaking countries from the 1970s to the 1990s.

Translations:

Etymology: From Gaelic í Riain, probably a derivative of rí "King" , thus the name means, Little King.

http://www.allwords.com/word-Ryan.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ryan&defid=1820234




Ryan has 17 variant forms: Rian, Riana, Riane, Riann, Rianna, Rianne, Riayn, Ryana, Ryane, Ryann, Ryanna, Ryanne, Rye, Ryen, Ryenne, Ryette and Rynn.

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Ryan



13 " The little kings must die, usually by drowning"

http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f



13 little kings


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13 little kings must die , usually by drowning.

http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f

Anonymous said...

WHY ONLY 13 VICTIMS WITH NAME RYAN/RIAN WITHIN THEIR NAMES?

ADDED POWER THATS WHY!!
POWER TO GET TO THEIR DEISRED OBJECTIVE QUICKER !!




ALCHEMY AND THE SIGNIFICANCE TO THE NUMBER 13



The meaning of the number thirteen is related to alchemy as well.

As I explain in my book http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSolomons-Treasure-Magic-Mystery-Americas%2Fdp%2F0976170469%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1168884868%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks&tag=tracyrtwymanc-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325 , the number 13 symbolized, for one proto-Masonic society, a concept which was itself equivalent to the idea of the Philosophers Stone.
http://tracyrtwyman.com/blog/?page_id=93

13 LITTLE KINGS RIAN OR RYANS

MUST DIE

USUALLY BY DROWNING

THE ALCHEMIC RITUAL:

LITTLE KING MUST DIE
TO OBTAIN THE STONE BY THE RIVER
OR PHILOSOPHERS STONE.

Anonymous said...

13 LITTLE KINGS

AM I SAYING OTHER VICTIMS ARE NOT PART OF THE SFKILLERS VICTIMS ?

NO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN THAT AT ALL
INFACT IT POSTIVELLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT !!

ALL IT MEANS
IS THAT ONLY 13 VICTIMS WITH THE NAME RYAN OR RIAN MEANING LITTLE KING, HIDDEN INSIDE THEIR NAME, WERE CHOSEN
13
NO MORE NO LESS.

Anonymous said...

IMPORTANT NEW

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/Nicolas_de_Locques.html
ABOVE IS A LINK TO SOME OF THE MANY SYMBOLS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RITUAL OF ALCHEMY

THOSE WHO ARE PRIVY TO THE OTHER SYMBOLS IN THE SMILEY FACE INVESTIGATION
MAY FIND CORRELATION?

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/val_symb.html

MORE THAT MAY MATCH?


THERE IS A SMILEY FACE OF ALL THINGS
HOW STRANGE.

Anonymous said...

AND THE SMILEY FACE
is from this
Alchemical symbols used in 17th century
From Basil Valentine, Last Will and Testament, London, 1671.

AND THE SMILEY FACE IS JUST BELOW THE SIGN THAT SAYS
WET
AND ABOVE THE STAR OF SATAN
AND ABOVE
THE SIGN FOR CHRISTIAN
CHRISTALLUM AND
CRUCIBUBORN?
IT END WITH CRUCI SOMETHING 08
what year did THE MONKEY GRAFFITI have on it ANYONE?

ONLY THE MONKEY IS ON A ALCHEMIC TAROT BUT THATS ANOTHER SUBJECT. (i posted it one of the links i provided, somewhere
related to the drunken fool card aswell hmmm puzzling.

HOW PECULIAR AND STRANGE.

Anonymous said...

oh my,
You will never guess where those symbols come from

ORDER OF ST BENEDICT OF ALLTHINGS THE ORDER THAT THE MONKS OF ST JOHNS ABBEY COLLEGVILLE BELONG TOO

you know the smiley face
ones
wet
satanic star
cross
christian
cruci
etcetc

Yes only the order of st bendict the man of the same order of monks as st johns monks!!!

ORDER OF ST BENEDICT OF ALLTHINGS THE ORDER THAT THE MONKS OF ST JOHNS ABBEY COLLEGVILLE BELONG TO

HOW STRANGE!



Title:Basilius Valentinus friar of the Order of St. Benedict his last will


Here is the index:

Title:Basilius Valentinus friar of the Order of St. Benedict his last will
and testament Which he himself, being alone, hid under a table of marble
behinde the high-altar of the cathedral church, in the imperial city of Erford:
leaving it there to be found of him, whom Gods providence should make
worthy of it. Wherein he sufficiently declareth the wayes he wrought to
obtain the philosophers stone: whereby not onely the leprous bodies of
the impure, and inferior metals are reduced unto the pure and perfect
body of gold and silver, but also all manner of diseases whatsoever are
cured in the bodies of unhealthful men, and kept thereby in perfect health
unto the prolonging of their lives.
Author:Basilius Valentinus.
Imprint:
London : [s.n.],
Date: 1657
Bib Name / Number: Wing (2nd ed., 1994) / B1015
Pages: [24], 175, [9+], 39, [3], 25, [3], 21, [3], 9, [3], 23, [1] p.
Notes: The last will is in five parts and there are other parts. Each part
of the will, and two of the other parts, has separate dated title pages
(dated MDCLVI. [1656]). Register is continuous.
Imperfect as filmed; recto of leaf B and verso of leaf B2, and pages
immediately following page 175 not filmed.
Reproduction of the original in the King's College Library, Cambridge University.
Copy from: King's College (University of Cambridge) Library
UMI Collection / reel number: Wing / 1841:20
Subject: Alchemy -- Early works to 1800



http://www.alchemywebsite.com/a-archive_jan06.html
JUST DO A FIND WORD SEARCH OF Benedict AND YOULL FIND IT QUICKLY ENOUGH!

Anonymous said...

and that the man who claimed to have the perfected the ritual to obtain the stone all desired!!
order of st Benedict indeed the very order of st johns collegeville where joshua and chris were taken

how positively puzzling isnt it.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE SINGLE HANDEDLY IN THE MIDST OF SPITTING ACCUSATION AND HOURS OF BEING PERSICUTED AND ALONE

SOLVED THE SMILEY FACE MURDERS WITH ACTUAL EVIDENCE AND SOMETHING THAT WILL AMAZE YOU THAT IS COROBATIVE EVIDENCE THAT IS SO STRONG IT CANNOT BE DENIED.
AND I MAY ADD WITH NO MONEY NO BOOK NO WEBSITE NO FANS NO SHIT NOTHING EXCEPT BY STUBBORN REFUSAL TO STOP AND THE GUIDANCE OF JESUS CHRIST.

GO HERE AND SEE
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message840860/pg1

Anonymous said...

Joshua Guimond student at st johns university collegeville
ABDUCTED NOVEMBER 9th 2002 place of abducton st johns university and abby collegeville mn, after midnight.
STILL MISSING


Chris Jenkins abducted from Minneapolis, MN 10/31/02
found drowned 02/27/03 at 1650 hours in the Mississippi River near the Horseshoe Dam south of the 3rd Ave. Bridge just above St. Anthony Falls. The body was snared on a tree. RULED HOMOCIDE

Joshua Guimond and Chris Jenkins, both traced by bloodhounds to st johns abby collegvile MN
December in grounds entry refused both scents traced positive.
january, allowed entry to interior of abby,both scents again posotive.
Joshua Guimonds father taken to court by st johns to get him to stop searching for his missing son.
Joshua guimond father won case to search freely however he wants no restrictions yet is still threatended by local sherrif tha he wil be arrested if he does not comply with terms of st johns authorities even though he won freedom in court case from ANY RESTRICTION OF SEARCH.

Concentrated media silence on Guimond case in particular
Father believes cover up because of who is involved.
related case of chris jenkins suddenly ruled homocide- bloodhounds evidecne in his case at st johns withdrawn from list of evidecne. ruled homocide yet case closed.

Mr guimond and family on his own now, Jenkins family got closure.

Concentrated attack of bloodhound findings in both media and smiley face blogging and online community,

including sfkillers.com and footprints a rivers edge , who officailly do not mention it as part of guimond and jenkins case evidence.

Underground tunnels all over st johns university and abby grounds eading to and from abby.



St johns abby Collegeville Mn , holds largest number of monks in the western hemisphere, at least 11 credibly accused by students from university and other places of sexual abuse, many more monks and victims suspected to be involved.

Jacob wetterling case; witness gave statement to bond lady working on wetterling investigation, said occult rituals and st johns abby were involved in wetterlings disapearence, said wetterling was a favourite at the abby.




Joshua Guimond and Chris Jenkins both considered to be a smiley face case victims by investigating team of gannon et all.
listed as such on gannons site sfkillers site footprints rivers edge, etcetc.


All SMILEY FACE victims are related by the SAME abducter(s) murderer(s),

So obviously the information relates to all the cases .

LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE OF COROBORATION BETWEEN WHAT THE SMIELY FACE KILLING ARE
HOW THE GANNON TEAM DESCRIBE THEIR OCCULT ASPECTS
AND THE EVIDECNE OF THE RITUALS I HAVE POSTED INCLUDING THE PICTURES OF THE RITUALS AND THEY REALTED DIRECTLY TO THE DOOR OF ST JOHNS ABBY

LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE IT ITS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WILL SEES IT

WIL DAMN WELL KNOWS IT IS !!!

Anonymous said...

The phrasology and CONCEPT of the
THE EVIL HAPPY SMILEY FACED MAN
IS ENTIRELY OF NIETZSCHE .

"Alchemy is yet another esoteric pursuit which holds striking similarities to both Nietzsche and the Qabalah."


Nietzsche and his Übermensch. "Bose Weisheit. Aphorismen und spruche", ARE STUDIED BY ALCHEMISTS .


Evil people can be "happy" in this world- thay can be rich, famous, selfish, their asses are in a worm place, and thay do not need anything but themselves- their infinite space of their minds.
This concept of a evil happy smiling man is Nietzsche, through and through.


“The teaching is complete and perfect, although it wears many garments” (Halevi, 16).

This is true in that in the grand, or Divine scheme, everything is related. One of these garments that the teaching may be disguised in is the pursuit of Alchemy. Almost as old as Qabablistic study, Alchemy is yet another esoteric pursuit which holds striking similarities to both Nietzsche and the Qabalah.


http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~panopus/jeannie/alchemy%20&%20daoism.html

Alchemy and Daoism
©2001 Jeannie Radcliffe

Daoist mystical philosophy would seem to have little to do with something as pragmatic yet experimental such as alchemy. Yet the one thing they both have in common is the search for immortality. Alchemy did this through the search for the immortal tincture that contained the essence of the universe whilst the Daoist sages contemplated the Dao through breathing exercises and diet. Using material substances to create the gold of immortality, the alchemists created highly toxic substances that had to be consumed ritually in careful doses, after much preparation and instruction. Of what use has a sage for gold? How could a sage afford alchemy with it's need for expensive equipment and ingredients? Yet we will see that Daoism and alchemy have been intertwined since the earliest records of the Han Dynasty.




Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Daoist thought: crossing paths in-between - Google Books Result
http://books.google.com/books?id=GA9wImRqv9AC&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=Daoism+neitsche&source=bl&ots=Ekoc_SAYbU&sig=ohPGTCWO5oLwancDvzGpxkJUxYA&hl=en&ei=5nheSuHbPIy4M7-4tK4C&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3





ALCHEMY THE INNER SMILE


OF

"The happy evil smiling faced man"


What is the Inner Smile? Man without smiling face should not open a shop. ... Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret ....

Historically, the Inner Smile was a foundation practice of Daoist
neidan gong, or “inner elixir skill”. Today, we translate it simply as
“inner alchemy”, meaning the science of changing oneself.

The Inner Smile was the first step in seven highly secret “inner alchemy
formulas” or stages of spiritual development. (For a full description
of these meditation formulas, see “Secrets of Immortality”

article on
www.HealingDao.com
homepage).

Anonymous said...

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/val_symb.html
part 1

MORE THAT MAY MATCH?

see the word WET? yes is to do with the rituals thats why but this is special
why?
you should already know why
it the last will and testement that revlead the secrets
the last will of a monk of the order of st Benedict, the order that is order of st johns monks collegeville.

see the word WET
THE smiley face
THE cross
THE satanic star



Jacob Wetterling abduction connected by witness statement too st johns abby
Wetterling
wett erling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erling
means "prince"
wett "prince"
Was jacob the preparation for the smiley face killing?
did he prepare the way?
not a little king
but the little prince?

Erling is a Nordic male name, meaning "Heir of clanchief", i.e. prince or similar.

Also

A village in Germany[1], located at the foot of the Benedictine abbey Andechs, and formed as an independent town in 1818.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erling

Amazing isnt it?
Yet another Benedictine connection.


jacob the name means
"holder of the heel" or "supplanter".

http://www.behindthename.com/name/jacob
"supplanter" is from the french meaning "The sole of the foot"
see here http://wiki.answers.com/Q/The_word_supplant_means_to_replace_can_that_mean_in_a_bad_way_or_a_good_way_or_even_both

The word supplant means to replace can that mean in a bad way or a good way or even both?


JACOB WETERLING
MEANS.

"THE REPLACER
THE WETT PRINCE"
OR

THE VICARIOUS WETT PRINCE

It is not impossible Jacob could also have been drowned.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/rumor/mn_grave.htm

also this

Wetterling connection:

St johns Proffesor thinks theres a connection to guimond case

Jacob was abducted at gunpoint in 1989 from tiny St. Joseph, MN, which is less than five miles away from Collegeville, which is where St. John's is located.

"Even if Guimond’s case is totally independent from Ayotte’s and Kerze’s, Immelman strongly believes there is a connection to Wetterling’s case.

During a February 2004 Fox News segment honoring Wetterling, the professor became startled by a 15-year-old composite drawing of a suspect.

“Not only did I think I recognized him, but he also resembled someone I felt uncomfortable with after the Guimond disappearance,” Immelman said.

Shortly afterward, he said two CSB/SJU students individually came forward, having also seen the segment.

Each student’s identification matched his own.

Professor has Guimond hunch
By Greg Ruhland
http://www.perjuries.com/bbs/index.php?action=printpage;topic=731.0

Also The Jacob bridge of Hope spans the very river of the drownings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_of_Hope

Bridges again serve as connection in alchemy.

Vicarious, a word used in the writing of alchemists when they discuss the drowning of little king means To act in place of or become a substitute for.

Anonymous said...

part 2

The argument non criminal Alchemists would use against my whole argument is that the ceromonies i am refering too are a symbolic depiction of the processes the alchemist himself goes through on his quest.

That may be true for some but for the smiley face killers that is not true, they dont drowon themselves, they drwon others.

And the evidecne i have found linked again and again to the only home base of suspects is where all this alchemy link came from and does it not amaze you?

Those pictures of the ritual i posted look at them SECOND POST ON FIRST PAGE HERE ON THIS THREAD OR USE THIS LINK
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message840860/pg1
IF I HAVE POSTED THIS ELSEWHERE



And now smiley faces and the crosses and the ryans (ryan means the little kings) all 13 just the right number and THE WORD WET ON THE SAME list as the smiley face and the cross and star of satan.

all left to us by Basilius Valentinus friar of the Order of St. Benedict


Anyway back to this new discovery of the name meaning of jacob as one who replaces "supplanter"

In other words, I am proposing Jacob wetterling who has been linked to st johns, that he was chosen not becuase of his age but because of what his name means, precisley so he could be the one who would commence the whole ritual drowning of substitutes or those who replace.


The word supplant means to replace can that mean in a bad way or a good way or even both.?

bad way just like it was meant


THE SMILEY FACE VICTIMS ARE THE VICARIOUS SACRIFICE FOR THE ALCHEMIST PRACTICING SMILEY KILLER GANAG TO OBTAIN THEIR SATANIC PRIZE THE STONE BY THE RIVER.

THEY THE SFK VICTIMS ARE REPLACING THE ALCHEMIST THEMSELVES AND JACOB WETTERLING WAS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEIR GREAT WORK!!



Bieng the sacrificial little kings for the ring of smiley killers who are doing alchemic rituals in oder to find the stone they seek.





so jacob wetterling
can mean

"Holder of the Heel of the wet prince"

the heel is at the base of the body
so it is the beggining if the body
so again
the name

Jacob wetterling
can be said to mean


"The beggining if the body of the wet Prince"


after all the thesis is all these abductions,murders drowning are part of a whole body .
And there is evidence linking Jacob wetterling to others of whom the ritual of the drowning of little king black, which itself is part of what alchemists call "The great work" is so dear.

jacob wetterling
the beginning of the foot the wet prince
jacob wetterling the beggining.

THE VICARIOUS WETT PRINCE

Major connection to the name jacob

Child of Gold of Sexual Alchemy. 30. We must fight against animal passion (the lunar serpent) and bruise its heel, because it has bruised our head

http://www.gnosiscentral.com/ccount/click.php?id=37

Anonymous said...

mY GOD! I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS
IN REFERENCE TO ABOVE AND JACOB WETTERLING
JACOB MEANS SUPPLANTER
ONE WHO REPLACES


The Hebrew of the Mutus Liber
of Alchemical information but only with certain locks attached that required the keys of ... that the "hieroglyphic figures" are intended as specific Alchemical symbols. .... 6) bqiy ; to supplant; "Jacob (The Supplanter) ". ...

http://www.abardoncompanion.com/Mutus.pdf

Sep 24, 2008 ... Mutus Liber (from Latin: Wordless Book) was an alchemical text published in France in the latter half of the 17th century. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutus_Liber
Mutus Liber is an Alchemic ritual that is eniterely centred around "JACOB"

Anonymous said...

Continued

Further connections to alchemy of JACOB WETTERLING and alchemy AND IN TURN CONNECTIONS TO ST JOHNS AND TOO THE SMILEY FACE KILLINGS RITUALS WITH THE ALCHEMY RITUALS


The Hebrew of the Mutus Liber

THE ALCHEMY RIUAL BASED AROUND JACOB

© 1995
Introduction:
The Mutus Liber first appeared in 1677 France. The hermetic climate of the time favored the publishing
of Alchemical information but only with certain locks attached that required the keys of
particular learning and experience to open. The fifteen plates of the Mutus Liber are no exception.
They require a level of familiarity with certain symbols, processes, and patterns of logic to
open. One of those perspectives is that of the Qabbalist.





lum
The Mutus Liber
Plate #1
Through its title, the Mutus Liber declares itself the "wordless book", yet three of its fifteen plates
contain words: Plates 1, 14 and 15. Plate One contains, in Latin, the following inscription:
"The wordless book, in which nevertheless the whole of Hermetic Philosophy is set forth in hieroglyphic
figures

(hermetics is alchemy)

The Hebrew verses (translated further on) refer to the allegory of Jacob's transmutation, as do the
images presented in Plates One and Fifteen. [Plate One showing Jacob asleep beneath the ladder,
angels trumpeting; and Plate Fifteen showing the conclusion of the allegory with Jacob's ascension
as Israel.] This is to say, essentially, that the main body of the Mutus Liber occurs within the
context of these six verses, symbolically sandwiched between images of Jacob's vision and his
eventual ascension as Israel.

http://www.abardoncompanion.com/Mutus.pdf

Anonymous said...

The alchemy ritual
La Bugia Series
This is series of ten drawings in an allegorical manuscript by the mid 17th century Italian adept Massimilio Palomboro

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/prints_series_bugia.html


This is part two of the ten part series of drawings above
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/amcl_lb02.jpg

notice the man is pointing to something written on the tree.
what does this remind you of?

this?
http://wfff.images.worldnow.com/images/8281382_BG1.jpg

or this
http://sfkillers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tree-2-150x150.jpg

both are said to look like this the symbol that is on this ancient illustration of an alchemy ritual, which was the last will and testamentclaiming to be the real deal of alchemy and how to obtain the stone by the river. It was made by a monk of the order of st benedict, the same as the order of st johns abby where smiley face gang victim josh guimond went missing from and both he and chris jenkins, were traced too.

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/valent02.gif
Basil Valentine,
Last Will and Testament, London, 1671


This could depict the lamp OF ALCHEMY

http://sfkillers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/graffiti-u-found-candle-smile-150x150.jpg

Anonymous said...

NEW VIDEOS

THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
SMILEY FACE KILLERS THE UNTOLD STORY PART ONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWX2Lyzq4ok



VIDEO THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
THE UNTOLD STORY PART TWO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17R3dItA6CM



VIDEO THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
THE UNTOLD STORY PART THREE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j0AY5THqWM



VIDEO THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
THE UNTOLD STORY PART FOUR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tngB96GnhB8

VIDEO THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
THE UNTOLD STORY PART FIVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Q6LnbkCpE

Anonymous said...

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/alchemical_symbols05.jpg
THE ALCHEMICAL SMILEY FACE SYMBOL-Caput Mortuum worthless remains
Caput Mortuum "worthless remains"
FULL LIST OF Bezoardicum martiale » Cera citrinahttp://www.alchemywebsite.com/alchemical_symbols05.html



Caput Mortuum is a Latin term whose literal meaning is "dead head" or "worthless remains"[1], used in alchemy and also as the name of a pigment. It has also been used as a synonym for deadhead, in the sense of a freeloader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caput_mortuum

Alchemy and chemistry

In alchemy, Caput Mortuum (alternately called nigredo) signified a useless substance left over from a chemical operation such as sublimation and the epitome of decline and decay; alchemists represented this residue with a stylized human skull, a literal death's head.[2]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/Caput_mortuum.svg/70px-Caput_mortuum.svg.png

Anonymous said...

Alchemistisches Oraculum, Ulm, 1755

REGULAS- LITTLE KING THREE POINTED CROWN

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/alchemical_symbols12.jpg

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/alchemical_symbols12.html



March 13 - Middlebury, VT

March 13 - Middlebury, VT
Nicholas Garza

Nicholas Garza

A year after Nicholas Garza disappeared from Middlebury College in Vermont, the case is officially closed. The police put out a final report yesterday and ruled Nick’s death “accidental.” Natalie Garza, Nick’s mom, found out from a news reporter.

Conclusion: No evidence of criminal activity or third party involvement in the death of Mr. Garza. The manner of death is classified as accidental.

According to the report, there were no signs of violence on his body and no reports of suspicious activity on campus. Nick’s cause of death and blood alcohol content couldn’t be determined. Based on Nick’s size and his alcohol intake, one professor estimated his BAC could range between .240% and .330%. Click here to read the full police report.

A couple of points that I found interesting:

** The investigating agency did request an inquest to continue the investigation. The police report states, “The request for an inquest was denied due to the State’s Attorney’s determination that a lack of information existed to indicate that a crime had been committed.”

** The FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit was brought in to consult on the case. According to the police, “Per the FBI BAU, Mr. Garza’s victimology profile indicates it was unlikely he would be the victim of a random violent crime or sexual predator.”

NOTE: There was graffiti found in the area, but it was determined by police not related to Nick’s disappearance. Among other things, the graffiti was a smiley face with a three-pointed crown. A different shaped smiley face, but also with a three-pointed crown was found in the Tommy Booth case. He disappeared in Ridley Township, PA less than a month before Nick.
http://sfkillers.com/?m=200903


Nicholas Garza is also on the list of the 13 little RYANS-little kings. And as you can read above THE GRAFFITI THREE POINTED CROWN OF ALCHEMY -REGULAS, (LITTLE KING) WAS FOUND WITH HIM.
http://sfkillers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/garza-graffiti-3-125x150.jpg

NOTE; REGULAS IS THE SECTION OF ALCHEMICAL SYMBOLS OF THE LIST Purificatio » Sal alcali PUTRACATION.


(definition) by Webster 1913 Wed Dec 22 1999 at 2:22:32

Pu`ri*fi*ca"tion (?), n. [F. purification, L. purificatio. See Purify.]
3. purification - a ceremonial cleansing from defilement or uncleanness by the performance of appropriate rites
purgation
ceremony - the proper or conventional behavior on some solemn occasion; "an inaugural ceremony"
4. purification - the act of purging of sin or guilt; moral or spiritual cleansing; "purification through repentance"
purge, purging, purgation - the act of clearing yourself (or another) from some stigma or charge
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/purification

Anonymous said...

ALSO WITH Tommy Booth,

THIS PROVES TO ME THAT ALTHOUGH 13 LITTLE KINGS WHOS NAMES CONTAINED RYAN RIAN WITHIN THEM, WERE ESPECIALLY PICKED , THE KILLERS BY ALSO LEAVING THE ALCHEMIC SYMBOL OF REGULAS (LITTLE KING) AT THE SITE OF TOMMY BOOTHS ENTRY POINT, ARE TELLING US, THEY THE WHOLE LIST OF SMILEY FACE VICTIMS ARE ALL "LITTLE KINGS WHO MUST DIE, USUALLY BY DROWNING."


The three pointed crown of the smiley face killers .

A Smiley Face is found
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/indexRidley Township Det. Scott Willoughby worked the Booth case. Something clicked after watching the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS’ investigation about the Smiley Face Killer Theory on Good Morning America. On a hunch, Willoughby asked his detectives to take another look behind Bootleggers. "When they went down into the area where we thought he went into the water, they noticed the graffiti and they noticed this smiley face painted on the wall," said Willoughby.


>>>>>>>>>>>>> The smiley face, which had slash marks for eyes and a 3-pointed crown on it's head,<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

was on the wall of the bar under the party deck, just 30 feet from the creek. Police said they had never seen this kind of graffiti in Ridley Township before. Detective Willoughby has sent photos of the Ridley Creek graffiti to retired detectives Gannon and Duarte (who discovered the smiley face link). He also contacted the FBI, even though they've looked at the other cases and dismissed the possibility of a link.

Anonymous said...

THE ALCHEMICAL SMILEY FACE SYMBOL
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/Caput_mortuum.svg/70px-Caput_mortuum.svg.png

Caput Mortuum "worthless remains"


http://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/alchemical_symbols05.jpg
THE ALCHEMICAL SMILEY FACE SYMBOL-Caput Mortuum worthless remains
Caput Mortuum "worthless remains"
FULL LIST OF Bezoardicum martiale » Cera citrinahttp://www.alchemywebsite.com/alchemical_symbols05.html



Caput Mortuum is a Latin term whose literal meaning is "dead head" or "worthless remains"[1], used in alchemy and also as the name of a pigment. It has also been used as a synonym for deadhead, in the sense of a freeloader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caput_mortuum

Alchemy and chemistry

In alchemy, Caput Mortuum (alternately called nigredo) signified a useless substance left over from a chemical operation such as sublimation and the epitome of decline and decay; alchemists represented this residue with a stylized human skull, a literal death's head.[2]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/Caput_mortuum.svg/70px-Caput_mortuum.svg.png

Anonymous said...

ALL THE ABOVE IS RELATED BACK TO ST JOHNS ABBEY,
THATS HOW I FOUND THE ALCHEMY CONNECTION BY
STICKING WITH THE ONLY FACTUAL, USABLE EVIDENCE IN THE SFK CASES.

THE ST JOHNS ABBEY TRACE OF TWO ABDUCTED VICTIMS

Anonymous said...

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SMILEY FACE KILLERS RING - CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF USE OF ALCHEMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG-surRURcg

full research
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SMILEY FACE KILLERS RING - CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF USE OF ALCHEMY

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Anonymous said...

The sword of Truth

A COUPLE OF FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

There is absolutely no actual or corrobative evidence supporting a trane employer or employee , a latin or homong gang or even a lone serial killer to be part of the smiley face murders.

However.....

There is geographical placement of two abducted smiley face victims and past abduction cases involving both young boys and college/university age 17 to 20 odd year old students to st johns collegeville, along with previous proven perpetrators who work as a ring of seriel abusers and who live and have lived at st johns abbey collegeville and others places of local like eclisiastical association.

There is also evidence of obscure and occultic alchemic rituals involving drowings of males in rivers linking back to the same st johns abbey collegeville, with all the publicly known accompanying smiley face graffiti symbols matching the obscure symbols within alchemic rituals to do with drownings of men in water to the objective of death.

Anonymous said...

A COUPLE OF FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

There is absolutely no actual or corrobative evidence supporting a trane employer or employee , a latin or homong gang , rock group,coolege fraternity or even a lone serial killer to be part of the smiley face murders.

However.....

There is geographical placement of two abducted smiley face victims and past abduction cases involving both young boys and college/university age 17 to 20 odd year old students to st johns collegeville, along with previous proven perpetrators who work as a ring of seriel abusers and who live and have lived at st johns abbey collegeville and others places of local like eclisiastical association.

There is also evidence of obscure and occultic alchemic rituals involving drowings of males in rivers linking back to the same st johns abbey collegeville, with all the publicly known accompanying smiley face graffiti symbols matching the obscure symbols within alchemic rituals to do with drownings of men in water to the objective of death.




COMING SOON The jacob wetterling connection
new videos

Further update for videos coming soon
in process of completing first stages of new series of videos

Rituals of the smiley face killers ring -
The jacob wetterling connection

and will be adding videos showing graphicly
Rituals of the smiley face killers ring -
The three pointed crown of regulas (the little king who must dieusually by drowning )- and the negredo (black phase) smiley face of alchemy - "useless remains".




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Anonymous said...

DOES IT EVER STOP?
MORE DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO ST JOHNS ABBEY

THE VERY ORDER OF ST BENEDICT ITSELF AND THE DARK ART OF ALCHEMY-

SHARE THE EXACT SAME MOTTO!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Saint_Benedict
The spirit of St Benedict's Rule is summed up in the motto of the Benedictine Confederation: pax ("peace") and the traditional ora et labora ("pray and work").



October 20, 2008, 02:57 PM ET
Old Tools and Fresh Sawdust at the Wood Shop at Saint John's University and Abbey

Woodworking The Saint John’s University woodworking shop was established more than 150 years ago. (Chronicle photographs by Scott Carlson)

Collegeville, Minn. — Ora et Labora — or “Prayer and Work” — has always been a mainstay of the Benedictine ethic. At Saint John’s University and Abbey, in north-central Minnesota
http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Old-ToolsFresh-Sawdust-at/5325

"Ora et Labora"

IT IS A QUOTE FROM ALCHEMY ITSLEF!!
AND IS THE VERY MOTTO OF ALCHEMY AND REFERS TOO THE GREAT WORK!

Identifying Some First Steps Of Alchemical Initiation
By Anthony M. House

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/markh_6.html


The Great Work
Ora et Labora
"Ora et Labora" translates roughly as "work as prayer." The alchemist's laboratory is seen as a place of both work and enlightenment.

http://www.squidoo.com/alchemy



"Ora et Labora", is the motto of the alchemists. Ora meaning to pray, from which comes the word, oratory. Labora, meaning to work, from which comes the word laboratory. Why the laboratory and what do the alchemists do in their laboratories? There is a beautiful and wonderful relationship that can be developed between the alchemist and his experiment through the laws of correspondences between the living animated symbols of the experiment and the inner awareness of the alchemist

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3466745/What-is-Alchemy

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twilla49 said...

I don't know if this will go through, but I decided to comment away. I have been following these murders, yes, they are all murders, when my second cousin was found at the bottom of the Onalaska bridge in 1999. He was not a college student, but he was a big man of 27. He was alive, but died at the hospital, from being all night in the cold. It was then, that my cousins mentioned students who have died recently in the Mississippi River. I did not have to think twice, I knew it was murder. I started researching and at that time came up with at least 40 young college men mostly who supposedly drowned. Common sense tells all of us this is not so, just by the magnitude of how many have drowned.

I have also researched what goes on in the occult, along with knowing people that had been in it also, whom are now christians. First in regard to the priests, yes many are child molesters and many are into satanism. One of the first things you have to do is to molest young children, which is sort of a right of way into the occult, along with taking drugs, and then progressing to murder.

I personally think the catholic religion is from a pagan source. If you research, you will find this out. There have been many catholics who started reading the bible and have gone away from that religion. On one of the comments, I did not know that Alfred Kunz was murdered because he was going to expose the molesting on the part of the priest. What I found out was that he was beheaded and that it was a satantic cult who killed him. Of course that will never be and never was in the paper. They will never find out who did it because it goes too high up.

I guess you could say that a serial killer or killers are doing these killings of young men, but when you think of it that is what satantic cults do, they are serial killers. These are definitely occultic and extremely evil. I feel that the police know more than they are saying in all cases and it is unbelievable that in all cities the police are of like-mindedness. All were drunk. This lacks common sense. Now, I do know for a fact, that sometimes the police will not say it is an occult killing, because when they have, the place of where it happened brings many witches and satanists, because they feel it gives them a lot of power. That is what I heard from a very good source. Whether that makes it right that all of these men have drowned, I think not.

I happen to talk to a young girl who was from Eau Claire and she mentioned that she was in a bar there and had one drink and felt like she had, had ten. She put her head down on the table. Fortunately, for her, the deejay knew her and kept his eye on her, or she probably would be dead. She obviously was drugged.

I do know that the police in Lacrosse did not do a lot of forensics on these men. Many times people in very high places are involved and keep it covered up. Just look at the Jon Benet case. Well the father had been molesting her and she was beginning to talk to her teachers and the people told her father to keep her quite. Also, if you pay attention to dates and different times of the season, they could be very high satantic days, where it requires a male sacrifice.

This may sound strange to all of you, but if you believe in God and Jesus, you must believe in the devil. We are fighting between good and evil. Thank you.

Monique777 said...

I just read for the first time the link on this site about St. Johns and how they treated Mr. Guimond.

How can a place that advertises itself as teaching love and tolerance treat a grieving and panicked father with such a lack of love and tolerance?

Any father who has a son that goes missing would naturally go to the very place he went missing from to look for him. What father would stop lookng for his son? Yet, St. Johns would like Mr. Guimond escorted on their grounds or he will be put in jail. They had filed a restraining order? Even if Mr. Guimond acted in a crazy and irrational way, everyone would understand this-his son went missing for crying out loud.

Why wouldn't St. Johns put into practise the love they claim to teach. Here they would have a chance to truely demostrate what they teach-loving a man through his journey of grief.And grief has many stages as anger. It seems St. Johns can only show love when it's convenient and easy. Well, who can't do this!

Monique777 said...

Sorry, this came from the link "Drowning a Coincidence" on this site under links.

Anonymous said...

NEW VIDEO

"The Jacob Wetterling Connection"
THE DARK RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyoPlcXn7OQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyoPlcXn7OQ&feature=PlayList&p=8B6F8207ED295889

Anonymous said...

NEW VIDEO UPLOADED TO YOU TUBE
IN THE RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS RING SERIES

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A
Police say they are now 100 percent sure the body of a

boy found in THE RIVER in St Paul MN was not that of

Jacob Wetterling, the 11-year old St. Joseph boy who was

kidpanapped LAST october. 1990.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

November 1994 Best Foot Forward Infant Footprints For Personal Identification By MICHAEL E. STAPLETON, M.A. Special Agent Stapleton serves in the San Jose Resident Agency of the FBI's San Francisco Division

The article concluded by stating that the typical health care professional is not fully aware of "...how unreliable footprints of a newborn happen to be for purposes of identification."1 In a 1988 publication, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) stated that "...individual hospitals may want to continue the practice of footprinting or fingerprinting, but universal use of this practice is no longer recommended."2 Both organizations based their findings on studies that demonstrated that the majority of infant footprints taken by hospital personnel prove inadequate for identification purposes

CONTAINS STARTLING VISUAL INFORMATION ON
VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER -THE MAN OF COPPER
AND THE JACOB WETTERLING SUSPECT

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

Anonymous said...

LATEST DROWNING VICTIM HAS LINK TO ST JOHNS ABBEY COLLEGEVILLE MN - NAME HAS ALCHEMY SIGNIFICANCE ALSO



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latest drowning victim Marwa Akway Omot has link to st johns abbey


NAME MEANING LATEST DROWNING VICTIM


-Marwa Akway Omot-he was 23, he came here from Ethiopia in 1996
As a 16-year old, he took part in the Walker Art Center's 2002 project
http://eyeteeth.blogspot.com/2009/08/rip-marwa-omot.html

Walker Art Center LINKED TO ST JOHNS ABBEY VIA THIS FORMER MONK
"one might even consider the methods of portraying the identity of a deteriorated body. Such reconstructed information constitutes yet another form of "portrait"

-Roman Verostko
FORMER MONK AT ST JOHNS ABBEY COLLGEVILLE MN
http://www.zonezero.com/feedback/cartascinco.html


NAME MEANING-Marwa
but given that is the name of a hill, the name "marwa" has another meaning, which is "flint stone"
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_marwa_mean_in_arabic

MOST PLAUSABLE NAME ORIGIN tribe-Akway

Know the Anyuak people. -"The Anuak are a **"river"** people"

Feb 7, 2009 ... The Anuak are a river people whose villages are scattered along the banks and rivers of southeastern Sudan and western Ethiopia.... His Majesty King Agada ""Akway"" Cham
http://www.akobociro.org/anyuak_culture.htm

The SECRET FIRE

Thou hast an example of this in the flint, in which there is fire, and yet is not perceived, neither doth appear until it is stirred up by motion, and kindled in it that it may appear. So the Fire in which is placed the sacred majesty


It should now be apparent why Mercury is so often called Water of Sulphur, or a Sulphur containing Sulphur, the Igneous. It is naturally also the Thick Water from which Fire is taken, while because of the coagulating effect of the Sulphur it is Permanent Water, which both Mundus, in the Turba, and Zozimus identify as Gum, while Zimon adds that it is a spirit concealed in the body.

The SECRET FIRE

An Alchemical Study:
BY
By E. J. LANGFORD GARSTIN

This copy was scanned by hermetics.org. from the original 1932 edition.


http://www.hermetics.org/secretfire2.html





[Father Backhouse's tale, from Ms. Ashmole 1790, folios 60-61.]

"Sir Ed: upon this goes into Polonia, & there meetes with this Italian, who not only tould him the full & whole of the Secret of the Stone, but also gave him a large quantity of this Powder. /& by this Meanes Sir Ed: Kelley tould this Pursevant he came by it. & this very story this Pursevant tould my Father Bachus [Backhouse], who tould it to me. /& shewed him also the Diamond which he made of a Flint Stone."

Other accounts of Edward Kelley's transmutations
The Alchemy web site on Levity.com

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/kelly2.html


latest drowning victim Marwa Akway Omot has link to st johns abbey

Anonymous said...

NEW VIDEO UPLOADED TO YOU TUBE
IN THE RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS RING SERIES

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A
Police say they are now 100 percent sure the body of a

boy found in THE RIVER in St Paul MN was not that of

Jacob Wetterling, the 11-year old St. Joseph boy who was

kidpanapped LAST october. 1990.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

November 1994 Best Foot Forward Infant Footprints For Personal Identification By MICHAEL E. STAPLETON, M.A. Special Agent Stapleton serves in the San Jose Resident Agency of the FBI's San Francisco Division

The article concluded by stating that the typical health care professional is not fully aware of "...how unreliable footprints of a newborn happen to be for purposes of identification."1 In a 1988 publication, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) stated that "...individual hospitals may want to continue the practice of footprinting or fingerprinting, but universal use of this practice is no longer recommended."2 Both organizations based their findings on studies that demonstrated that the majority of infant footprints taken by hospital personnel prove inadequate for identification purposes

http://www.peoplefindernow.com/infanprts.htm

CONTAINS STARTLING VISUAL INFORMATION ON
VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER -THE MAN OF COPPER
AND THE JACOB WETTERLING SUSPECT

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

VIDEO ABOVE CONTAINS ALL NEW- NEVER SEEN BEFORE
STARTLING VISUAL INFORMATION ON
VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER -THE MAN OF COPPER
AND THE JACOB WETTERLING SUSPECT SKETCH
LATEST DROWNING VICTIM HAS LINK TO ST JOHNS ABBEY- COLLEGEVILLE MN
NAME HAS ALCHEMY SIGNIFICANCE ALSO SEE TOP OF POST

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Anonymous said...

NEW VIDEO UPLOADED TO YOU TUBE
IN THE RITUALS OF THE SMILEY FACE KILLERS RING SERIES

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A
Police say they are now 100 percent sure the body of a

boy found in THE RIVER in St Paul MN was not that of

Jacob Wetterling, the 11-year old St. Joseph boy who was

kidpanapped LAST october. 1990.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

November 1994 Best Foot Forward Infant Footprints For Personal Identification By MICHAEL E. STAPLETON, M.A. Special Agent Stapleton serves in the San Jose Resident Agency of the FBI's San Francisco Division

The article concluded by stating that the typical health care professional is not fully aware of "...how unreliable footprints of a newborn happen to be for purposes of identification."1 In a 1988 publication, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) stated that "...individual hospitals may want to continue the practice of footprinting or fingerprinting, but universal use of this practice is no longer recommended."2 Both organizations based their findings on studies that demonstrated that the majority of infant footprints taken by hospital personnel prove inadequate for identification purposes

http://www.peoplefindernow.com/infanprts.htm

CONTAINS STARTLING VISUAL INFORMATION ON
VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER -THE MAN OF COPPER
AND THE JACOB WETTERLING SUSPECT

THE JACOB WETTERLING CONNECTION PART THREE-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGkodqPu6EQ

VIDEO ABOVE CONTAINS ALL NEW- NEVER SEEN BEFORE
STARTLING VISUAL INFORMATION ON
VERNON SIETZ THE BARBER -THE MAN OF COPPER
AND THE JACOB WETTERLING SUSPECT SKETCH
LATEST DROWNING VICTIM HAS LINK TO ST JOHNS ABBEY- COLLEGEVILLE MN
NAME HAS ALCHEMY SIGNIFICANCE ALSO SEE TOP OF POST

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER DROWNING VICTIM
Brendan Ryan
THIS TIME HIS NAME MEANS


LITTLE KING. LITTLE KING

FIRST NAME AND SURNAME


COULDNT GET MUCH CLEARER COULD IT?






http://www.nypost.com/seven/08192009/news/regionalnews/body_of_missing_man_found_in_river_185371.htm

PRINCE THE LITTLE KING WHO MUST DIE,USUALLY BY DROWNING.

Posted: 3:06 pm
August 19, 2009

DEERPARK, N.Y. -- Authorities say divers have recovered the body of a 24-year-old man who disappeared last weekend after walking away from a party near an upstate New York river.

State police say the body of Brendan Ryan of Westbrookville was found Tuesday by youths tubing on the Neversink River in the Sullivan County town of Deerpark, where the New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey borders meet
http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=thejournalnews&sParam=31413763.story




Brendan MEANS PRINCE

The boy's name Brendan \b-ren-dan, br(e)-ndan\ is pronounced BREN-den. It is of Irish, Gaelic and Celtic origin, and its meaning is "prince". From the old Irish personal name Bréanainn.

For more information, see also the related name Brandon.

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Brendan






ryan
MEANS LITTLE KING /prince



Ryan is a name from Irish Gaelic whose meaning and origin are derived from the old gaelic word "righ" (cognate of Latin "rex" and its derivatives such as French "roi") and the old Irish diminutive of "an" - which form the meaning of "little king." The modern Irish form of this name is O' Riain - a contraction of the older Irish form O'Mulriain (commonly anglicised as Mulryan) which is now virtually extinct.

The Ryan family motto is 'Malo Mori Quam Foedari', which, when translated, means 'I would rather Die than be Disgraced'. It is also the motto of the Harty family.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_%28surname%29







Regulus is Latin for 'prince' or 'little king'. The Greek variant Basiliscus is also used. It is known as Qalb Al Asad, from the Arabic قلب لأسد or Qalb[u] Al-´asad, meaning 'the heart of the lion'. This phrase is sometimes approximated as Kabelaced and translates into Latin as Cor Leōnis. It is known in Chinese as 轩辕十四, the Fourteenth Star of Xuanyuan, the Yellow Emperor. In Hindu astronomy, Regulus corresponds to the Nakshatra Magha


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulus



THE LITTLE KING MUST DIE,USUALLY BY DROWNING.

Anonymous said...

Brendan J. Ryan
Westbrookville, NY

Mr. Brendan J. Ryan of Westbrookville, NY, died Tuesday, August 18, 2009 in the Town of Deerpark. He was 24.

He was born December 28, 1984 in White Plains, NY, the son of John H. and Lynne Lawton Ryan.

He attended the University at Albany where he majored in Psychology and minored in Computers.

A family statement reads: "Brendan, a loyal son, brother and friend with a generous heart, whose quick wit always made us laugh. You will be greatly missed Irish Ryan."

Survivors include his loving parents, John and Lynne Ryan, at home; one brother, Kevin Ryan and his wife, Lisa of Palm Bay, FL; two sisters, Kimberly and Emily Ryan, at home; maternal grandparents, David and Irene Lawton of Palm Bay, FL, also many aunts, uncles, cousins and friends.

There will be no visitation. A memorial service will be held on Saturday, August 22, at 11 a.m. in the Christian Faith Fellowship Family Church, 510 M&M Rd., Middletown, NY 10940. As was his character, the family requests that all attending dress casually.

In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Huguenot Fire Dept., PO Box 195, Huguenot, NY 12746.

The Ryan family would like to extend their sincere appreciation to Ted and Helene Brois & Company, the Deerpark Police Dept., Huguenot Fire Dept., State Police and everyone who volunteered their untiring efforts to help bring Brendan home.

Arrangements by Gray-Parker Funeral Home, 100 E. Main St., Port Jervis; 845-856-5191. For additional information, directions or to send a condolence note to that family, please visit www.grayparkerfuneralhome.com.







http://www.legacy.com/RecordOnline/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=131661456

Anonymous said...

Anonymous who feels they are talking to themselves.

Well you aren't-there are some of us who read. This is a place we can talk about these matters as opposed to a place where family is apt to visit. Just don't want to upset family members who are relying heavily on their faith.

I may be wrong but I am under the impression most everyone knows about the huge problem in the church with priests who sexually offend. And while people may be under the impression it is being handled more harshly these days by having outside groups, I highly doubt it. I think it would just beget more secretism and more protection for "one's brother".

If the priests changed their methedology, the only reason I can make sense of this is for them to spare themselves from having to pay out some of those hefty fines they paid to the victims. These fines would eventually take out a church as they don't have the money for this-they struggle as it is.

So, it would seem a possibility to get rid of the victim to spare the church's survival and their own careers.

Here is the problem with sex offenders whether they are your next door neighbor or a priest dressed in holy clothes- they typically re-offend. I have read from the lowest stat (50%) to the highest stat (90%) that they will re-offend.

What keeps a sex offender from re-offending? What restrictions are required? I would think a sex offender would NEVER be allowed in any situation where anyone under 18 y/o would be. Does this restriction take place with priests? No. And even if someone provided a link it would be difficult to believe and it would be a huge exception. They do not have the security measures to impose such restrictions. Fellow priests are not parole officers nor is this the vocation they chose!

Now as far as men over 18 y/o? There are links to this happening. I also read 10% of sexual abusers, abuse an adult (student, parishiner etc.) It has been shown that many victims don't come forward in sexual abuse situations that happened while they were still children. Can you imagine an 18-24 year old adult coming forward?

There are a couple of the victims listed on this site where I could see this happening-it is a possibility. We can't rule this out because no one can prove this was not the case.There are actually some really good facts that make this a very valid theory.

One particular victim went missing in a land of secretism- a place that housed known priests who had sexually abused in the past. He still has not been found to this day. The entire campus still has not been searched to this day.

Now, let's just say, the priests had nothing to do with his disapearance for arguements sake-that place still needs to be ripped apart and have every crevice searched. They are hiding something. It is never good to hide anything when you have known abusers living under your roof. That place needs to be investiagted and it is frustrating and shocking that still, in 2009, they have managed to evade this.

Now, add in that a 20 year-old male went missing on the same grounds and the fact they have not been fully investigated and questioned is very disturbing. The protection they get is almost unreal!

While I have heard of endless abuse stories, I have never heard of a boy or man being transferred to another parish for other priests to abuse. I've heard of priests being transferred, but not the victim. Do you have a link of a story? I would be interested in reading about this.I mean it could be totally possible, I just haven't heard of it which doesn't mean it isn't happening.

This is all a learning process-sifting through each case and looking at them individually.

I'll remain anonymous for this comment!

Anonymous said...

Also very interesting is someone's May 20th post at 10:00AM.

Yes, that is the other victim I am questioning whether priests were involved for several reasons.Most are not fact, but speculation. The only fact is there is the a Seminary on Summit and Mississippi River Rd., 3 blocks from his last known location. If he kept walking North, he would have been even closer.

I am not accussing this seminary of any wrong doing. Only stating facts.

Anonymous said...

A young man feels rather sure of himself, and he feels strong in wanting to do right. It is quite possible that Dan Zamlen complained about an offending priest to the wrong person, & that could have very easily gotten him killed.

A bright young man would feel quite righteous in turning-in an offending priest, not realizing that the higher authority priest/bishop to whom he complained may very well be part of the same conspiracy/gang.

Indeed, many older, more experienced, police officers, prosecutors, judges, etc, have been duped time & time again by priests & bishops into believing that the church will internally handle an offending priest appropriately, only to sometimes come to learn years later that nothing significant was ever done to curb the problem, & in fact, it has been fostered & escalated.

Anonymous said...

I agree people are duped all of the time into believing the church will make an honest and sincere effort to impose restrictions when in reality the church doesn't have the means to control the offender.The parish may think prayer will make the problem go away yet these men need strict monitoring as it is a compulsion that consumes them to act out again.It is not just a bad habit that is easily broken! Abusers have begged for drugs to interfere with them being able to have sex because they felt they were out of control and could not help themselves. Sounds pretty much like an addiction.

It would be niave to believe a transferred priest never has the opportunity to re-offend.It would also be niave to believe that because they are caught they will have learned a lesson and change. And that is why all other offenders go to prison where they are locked up and later put on parole where they are monitored. In a different parish, they are around new people who do not know them well and they are able to sneak around again.And even more, often times they are put in situations that easily allow for the abuse to happen yet again. There is one story where a known abuser still runs retreats! It's almost the same as taking an alcoholic and moving him to a different bar in hopes he will no longer desire alcohol and somehow he will stay dry as long as he's watched. He may behave at first, but eventually he'll start sneaking a shot here and there.So as far as the sexual abuse- I believe it is pretty common knowledge and we really don't have more to prove there! Where we take a leap is trying to show (prove) certain victims were killed by priests. No one can deny it's a possibility because it is plausable.

I don't know if Dan reported an issue however it would seem in his nature to do so if he was aware of any such situation. He seemed to always do the right thing and he was a "go to type of guy". Maybe a fellow student went to Dan to confide such a situation. Dan may have also needed to talk to a priest to recieve some help in adjusting from a small town to such a large University. This wouldn't seem so far fetched especially since he had just learned he was diabetic. And students are encouraged these days "to reach out" and ask for help.

This, along with the close proximity of the seminary makes it possible.Who knows who was lurking in the area a couple of blocks from the seminary.

Then, around the same time that Dan went missing the seminary was robbed. Someone used a ladder to break into a second story window-they stole crosses and other valuable items. But later when I thought about it, doesn't it seem odd a person robbing would carry a ladder, climb up a ladder not knowing who was on the other side of the window he was breaking into and go in through a second story window? Wouldn't it seem to be a person very FAMILIAR with the lay out and who was going to be in what room? And who would be most familiar with the seminary? Do you follow?

This robbery is no longer on line to access. This seems odd in that it only happened a little over 4 months ago.

You see, it's just one thing after the other when each victim's case is read. One oddity after the next.But the one thing they all seem to have in common is nothing is ever investigated fully.Security cameras aren't looked into, witnesses aren't found because no one is really questioned and prior to an autopsy they are each ruled an accident justifying LE and the state attorney to do nothing more for these men.

Anonymous said...

PRIESTS SHARED VICTIMS



CTRL] ohio nun, asking about abuse, priests shared victims, pedophiles

Smart News
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg119728.html

Anonymous said...

in answer to a posters question about SHARING OR TRANSPORTING OR PASSING ROUND TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND MEN.
HERES N EXAMPLE OF THAT YPE OF BEHAVIOUR AMOGNST "THEM"


One alleged victim said in an affidavit that a man he met as a teen through his church would send him to Shanley, who would molest him and send him back with an envelope of money, some of which the boy would keep.

The "deliveries" continued over many years, according to the affidavit. When the alleged victim was 17, he said, the priest began taking him to bars, and would bring the teenager for games of spin-the-bottle with groups of older men.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/clergy/clergy182.html

Anonymous said...

FROM SAME ARTICLE ABOVE

MORE EXAMPLES OF "THEIR" TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR

THREATENED WITH PHYSICAL "HARM"
TAKEN TO MONESTARY'S FOR
"GROUPS" OF MEN

"I did not want to have anything to do with them, but if I didn't show up for the meetings which he arranged for me, he would become totally enraged and threatened me with physical harm," wrote the alleged victim, who was not named.


In another affidavit, a 46-year old man now in prison claims that Shanley and another priest molested him at the same time. The man also alleged that when he was a teen, Shanley brought him to a monastery, where Shanley would share the boy and his cousin with other men.

The Boston-area CEO said he was molested by Shanley when the priest served at St. Patrick's Parish and elementary school in Stoneham in the 1960s, The Globe reported.

After Shanley abused him, he said he told his parents, and then spoke to Rev. Raoul Chabot, a priest at Attleboro's Our Lady of La Salette, according to the report.

Archdiocese records show that Chabot shared the allegations with the archdiocese, but church officials accepted Shanley's denial of the incident and closed the case, the report said.

NO CRIMINAL CHARGES ARE WARRENTED


In a related matter, Attorney General Tom Reilly's office announced that a report on clergy abuse will be released to the public on Wednesday. The report concludes that criminal charges against the archdiocese are not warranted, but also includes extensive evaluation of how church officials handled the scandal.

The archdiocese is facing about 500 civil suits from alleged victims of clergy sex abuse. Church officials have repeatedly said they remain committed to working toward an out-of-court settlement.


http://www.rickross.com/reference/clergy/clergy182.html

Anonymous said...

So, do you believe all these victims are being delivered to one specific place for the priests, or to many different seminaries throughout many states?

Also,how do the gangs or captures benefit? Are they paid and what keeps them quiet? Is this one gang or many gangs that are delivering the men?

Is the graffiti relevant or is it just used to support the idea there is a smiley face killer?

Recently it was mentioned the smiley face graffiti also had a clue left with it-some type of gang sign I believe.

Anonymous said...

Then there is Chris Jenkins whos scent was found at the Abbey.LE made a point to make sure the public ignored this by using the media to discredit Hoover and blacken Hoover's owner's name. Why? Why not just put their energy into a search and investigate the Abbey instead? Then add to this Stearns County LE who allowed 2 weeks to pass before the dogs were let inside that place.Why? What were they hiding? These are scent dogs-they weren't going to look at their books,financials, accounting, or records. They ONLY wanted to know whos SCENTS were inside. So whos scents were they hiding? Why delay the process and discredit the dogs when you can find the true answer by simply letting the new dogs in and investigate the place?

And Chris Jenkins was taken by a group of people in a white cargo van.

Anonymous said...

QOUTE
So, do you believe all these victims are being delivered to one specific place for the priests, or to many different seminaries throughout many states?

PRPBABLY MORE THAN ONE PLACE

Also,how do the gangs or captures benefit? Are they paid and what keeps them quiet? Is this one gang or many gangs that are delivering the men?
PROBABLY HIRED THUGS WITH INTERESTSTHAT ARE BENIFICIAL TO THEM

Is the graffiti relevant or is it just used to support the idea there is a smiley face killer?
IT FITS THE ALCHEMY
HOW COUOLD I MAKE THIS LINK I DIDNT IT JUST DOES AND EXACLTY FITS!!

Recently it was mentioned the smiley face graffiti also had a clue left with it-some type of gang sign I believe.
NOT SURE WHAT GANG SIGN YOU ARE RELATING
GANGG SIGNS ARE NOT JUST MODERN EITHER
THEY CAN BE BASED UPON ANCIENT
SYMBOLS AS ALL SYMBOL USED I KNOW
ARE FROM ALCHEMY INCLUDING THE
DEFINITIVE SMILEY FACE

Anonymous said...

Then there is Chris Jenkins whos scent was found at the Abbey.LE made a point to make sure the public ignored this by using the media to discredit Hoover and blacken Hoover's owner's name. Why? Why not just put their energy into a search and investigate the Abbey instead? Then add to this Stearns County LE who allowed 2 weeks to pass before the dogs were let inside that place.Why? What were they hiding? These are scent dogs-they weren't going to look at their books,financials, accounting, or records. They ONLY wanted to know whos SCENTS were inside. So whos scents were they hiding? Why delay the process and discredit the dogs when you can find the true answer by simply letting the new dogs in and investigate the place?

And Chris Jenkins was taken by a group of people in a white cargo van.

end qoute

YES A COMPLETE COVER UP
FOR OBVIOUS REASONS -ST JOHNS, hired thugs are doing the ground work obvious enough, but dont let anyone know who they are working for!.

Anonymous said...

why has the "st johns -alchemy ritual drownings" theory link been totaly deleted?

Anonymous said...

the people behind the media coverage of the murders are a disgrace
including this blog. cover up after cover up

THEhoundedFEW said...

new blog
Dark Rituals Of The Smiley Face Killers
http://darkritualsofthesfkillers.blogspot.com/

THEhoundedFEW said...

major update

MISSING SMILEY FACE VICTIM gives his sister kryptic witness statement showing smiley face killers are alchemists.

for full story
see http://Godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message950250/pg1

THEhoundedFEW said...

INVESTIGATION UPDATES
confimred Joshua was investigating the abbey
confirmed strange rituals at the abbey

From Carrie Henson Victims advocate.
working with the Guimond family.(has bearing on Chris Jenkins case, also.)


Now Confirmed

St Johns university and abbey
Rituals.

A inner group of monks at the abbey that have been rumored to be involved in several different lets say odd rituals that i am still trying to get (Further information on)

But i can factualy confirm that we have proof of rituals abuse and ceremonys taking place on the campus in one of the building that have since been redone.


I can tell you this there are at least 130 known factual cases regarding sexual abuse by the monks of the abbey



I can only confirm the evidence that i as a victim advocate for the joshua guimonds family have seen with my own eyes but before you think this is a bunch of ****

i suggest you go to " behind the pine curtain "google a search and read the background on what goes on out there it will scare the hell out of you




Carrie Henson
Victims advocate.
davgra72153@earthlink.net

sign up to get the justice for joshua guimond newsletter a monthly newsletter exposing the coverup and never seen documents sign up and join the fight to get joshua justice
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Now confirmed

St Johns Abbey offenders on campus night Joshua dissapeared and present when chris jenkins dissapeared also.

There were sex offenders who were on campus, and known to the public, who weren’t properly investigated in the disappearance of Joshua Guimond. There were also offenders on campus, whose names were not known to the public, who weren’t properly investigated either.


Now confirmed

Joshua was investigating corruption conspiracy to commit a crime in law at the Abby, in the days before he went missing.

The day after the October 2, 2002 St. Cloud Times’ article about the settlement agreement between St. John’s and several victims, Joshua Guimond performed an Internet search on “St. John’s Abbey” “Statute of Limitations” and “Conspiracy” even though the St. Cloud Times article didn’t mention the statute or anything about a conspiracy.

What Joshua Guimond looking for? We don’t know. Yet.

We do know that many files on Joshua’s hard drive were deleted in the days after he disappeared. Seven years later, the files are slowly being recovered.

A recent search of Joshua’s hard drive includes a cached copy of an October 22, 2002 Star Tribune article “St. John’s launches ad campaign to counter image woes”. The story was dated, and was accessed by Joshua, two weeks before he disappeared.


Carrie Henson
Victims advocate.
davgra72153@earthlink.net

See link below for full copy of updates from Carry Henson, Victims advocate working with the Guimond family.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message972532/pg1