November 1, 2013

Chris Jenkins Homicide: Someone Knows Something

Chris Jenkins with friends,
Halloween 2002
Do you have any information in this homicide?

Christopher Jenkins disappeared eleven years ago today. His homicide is unsolved. The article below has been modified reprint from the original. Additional details, photographs and links have been added. 

Eleven years ago tonight, University of Minnesota student Christopher Jenkins and his friends left a keg party and headed to the Lone Tree Bar and Grill in downtown Minneapolis to celebrate Halloween. The group arrived a little after 10:30 pm and parked just south of the bar. An hour and a half later, two off duty police officers working security for the bar, ejected Chris and instructed staff to not allow him back inside. Chris found himself on the street in 20-degree weather wearing only an American Indian costume. He did not have his coat, wallet, cell phone, or the keys to the car and his apartment. No one is sure exactly what happened to Chris after that.

When the Jenkins family got the call that Chris was missing, they knew something was dreadfully wrong. The police believed that Chris may have attempted to walk home across the Hennepin Avenue bridge, then went off on his own somewhere. But Chris was very responsible; he was not known to stay away from his apartment without calling anyone.

When little progress was made by local authorities in finding their son, Jan and Steve Jenkins decided to take matters into their own hands. They tracked down surveillance footage of the Hennepin Avenue bridge and had it reviewed.

"There were two surveillance cameras on the Federal Reserve Bank pointing to the Hennepin Avenue Bridge," says Jan. "This was post 9-11, clearly good equipment. We have written documentation from the supervisor that more than one person viewed the tapes from both cameras late on the 31st and early on November 1. Chris was not seen on the tape. We do not believe Chris walked across that bridge. The supervisor told the FBI that it would be almost impossible for a person to sprint across that bridge and not be seen." (See 360-degree panoramic aerial view of the bridge in relation to the bank.)

Around the time Chris disappeared, I was working about a block from the Lone Tree Bar and Grill. The 6th and Hennepin bar was a hot spot for lunch or happy hour for the younger crowd working in downtown. Halloween 2002 fell on a Thursday, and I had no special plans, so I opted to head home after work. By late fall in Minnesota, it begins to get dark around 6 pm, so my commute played a large part in my decision; I didn't want to be stuck at my creepy bus stop. My stop sat on 5th and Hennepin, one building away from the Lone Tree Bar and Grill, in front of a darkened parking lot that extended to the corner. Despite the upscale boutiques, financial firms and banks nearby, this particular section of Hennepin Avenue has been plagued by crime for years. Walking from the then newly built Block E shopping center on 7th and Hennepin (a mecca for theft and scams and now largely defunct), past the Lone Tree, the bus stop and then down to 5th Street near Augie's Bar (a bar with a reputation for having a rougher sort of clientele), it was not uncommon to see working girls or drunks on the sidewalk. Drug handoffs also happened more than once in front of the bus stop, even with the local police cruising by. It was no place to be alone at night.

This photo taken in 2010 shows the general area where Chris was last seen in 2002.

Witnesses told Chuck Loesch, a private investigator hired by the Jenkins family, that a gang of at least 10 men attacked a man in front of Times Square Pizza & Subs (now closed), possibly as part of a gang initiation, on the night Chris disappeared. Though the time of the incident has not been confirmed, Times Square Pizza sits kitty corner to the Lone Tree and just across the street.

On two separate occasions, a bloodhound picked up Chris's scent on the sidewalk in front of the pizza joint, then followed the scent into the parking garage next door. The dogs, who did not work together on the same day, each took their handler to the same parking stall. Blood drops and a red feather, possibly from Chris's Native American costume, were later found inside the garage. But Chris's trail on the night he disappeared just stopped there.

2013 Google Map photo showing parking garage. The blue awning is
about where Times Square Pizza stood and where the assault took place.
Four months later, Chris's body was found on the east side of the Mississippi River near the spillway of the St. Anthony Falls Hydroelectrical Laboratory at 30 SE 3rd Street (See aerial photo). It could be seen from the 3rd Avenue bridge, floating on its back with its arms in front.

Police initially believed Chris either died accidentally or must have have committed suicide. But all those who knew Chris felt differently. Chris was a two-time team captain of his lacrosse team and an honor student at the U of M's prestigious Carlson School of Management. He was gearing up to graduate, and he had job interviews lined up. He was happy, easy going, and he had plans for the future. The medical examiner initially ruled the death an accidental drowning

The Jenkins family consulted with global experts in water rescue and recovery and renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. They learned that the appearance of Chris's body did not fit with the suicide or accident theories held by the police. Due to a natural reaction to try to swim, most drowning victims are found face down, arms out toward their sides, clothing disheveled, and one or both of their shoes missing. Chris was found on his back with his arms crossed in front. His shirt was still tucked in to his drawstring pants. He was also still wearing both oversized slip-on shoes, a necklace, and a ring on each hand.

Faced with these new findings, the city's new police chief, Tim Dolan, agreed that the case had not been thoroughly investigated. Dolan reopened the case in 2006 and it finally seemed that the case was moving forward. Ultimately, the medical examiner changed the official cause of death from accidental drowning to homicide. Chief Dolan offered the Jenkins family a public apology.

That same year, a man in jail facing felony charges for another crime came claimed that he was present when Chris was thrown off a bridge. The inmate told investigators that an acquaintance had robbed Chris and thrown him off the Hennepin Avenue bridge. But the mention of the Hennepin Avenue bridge was problematic.

According to Loesch, the killer would have had to stand on the brightly lit bridge in heavy traffic without being spotted by passerbys or the bank security cameras with a full view of the bridge. The killer would then need to lift a grown man (an athlete) over a high safety railing and throw him 4- to 5-feet out over a steal support beam, avoiding the vertical cables in the process--a nearly impossible feat, even with help. (See 360-degree panoramic view of the bridge.) Chris's body was not found to have any broken bones, nor did anyone report seeing anything unusual on the bridge that night, making the claim all the more unlikely.

Hennepin Avenue Bridge, 
September 26, 2008.  Courtesy of
photographer Susan Lesch. 
Loesch, in fact, believes it unlikely that Chris was thrown from a bridge at all. Given the fall and the river's current, Chris's shoes would not have stayed on his feet. (Watch video clip for more information.)

In July 2007, Hennepin County declined to press any charges against the inmate, citing lack of evidence. Chris's case remains unsolved.

Eleven years ago, the slogan on Chris's missing poster was, "Someone Knows Something." If you have any information about the night Chris Jenkins disappeared or his death, please call the Minneapolis Homicide Unit at (612) 673-2941, send an e-mail to, or call 612-692-TIPS (8477).

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tennessee111 said...

Killers like to take trophies and souvenirs from their victims. Keeping some memento — a lock of hair, jewelry, newspaper clips of the crime — helps prolong, even nourish, their fantasy of the crime.

Here’s what to look for in an investigation: Is there anything missing that belongs to the victim? Often police will mistakenly look for valuable missing items. But I’m not talking about a stereo component — that’s an impersonal item. I’m talking about something more personal — a ring, earrings, even costume jewelry — something the victim was wearing at the time of the crime.

Maybe they’ll keep the victim’s driver’s license. Some will leave it intact. Others will get rid of everything but the picture, so they just have a little wallet photo of the victim, as if they had some kind of relationship going.

In the more sadistic cases, some killers will take locks of the victim’s hair, or even go so far as to cut off the head or other body parts.

Turbo said...

I've been to MPLS quite a few times, and I'm familiar with the area where Chris was last seen. While Hennepin Ave. is full of people partying in the bars up and down that strip, the Lone Tree was situated at a point where the area becomes rather sketchy, especially late at night.

As you head toward the Hennepin Ave. bridge, the nightlife thins out very quickly. The Brass Rail has a view of the street, while The Gay 90s has little to no vantage point. I can easily see Chris being a target if he were wandering around there intoxicated.

Lisa said...

@ Turbo,

Very good observation--the nightlife does thin out as you get closer to Hennepin. I also want to thank you for opening up the discussion about this area and Chris's case.

Like many big cities, in parts of Minneapolis, there are pockets of areas that are not as good as others. In general, it is still very safe, and it isn't the kind of place where you have to worry about accidentally driving into the wrong part of town. No one bothered me at that seedy bus stop. With that said, given enough time, or had I seemed more vulnerable/less aware of my surroundings, things could be different. I guess that it is why I feel so connected to Chris. And it really could happen to anyone, anywhere.

Lisa said...


More about the area, for those interested.

On the West end of Hennepin Ave (near 12th Street), you've got a community college, St. Thomas University, many upscale restaurants, apartments, theaters, and 5-star hotels. Not really too familiar with that end of town, but when I was there it seemed really quiet and not very well lit.

Around 9th Street, the street gets brighter, and you see a lot of people out and about. Hot reputable spots were the Rock Bottom Brewery and the Palomino, but there was not much else within walking distance around there back then.

Starting about 7th Street is where you saw most of the nightlife. People would come into town to watch concerts or games at the Target Center--a few blocks west--partying before/afterward at some of the trendy Irish pubs, the Loon Cafe, or Brother's Bar. But things on the main drag start to change around 7th. The Block E complex had just opened in 2002. Block E which brought in Borders bookstore, GameWorks arcade, and Hard Rock Cafe, was plagued with crime. (The whole enterprise ultimately failed and businesses closed up shop.) A lot of people hung out on the street in front of Block E, using the the ruse that they were waiting for the bus. Robberies were happening, so I remember specifically deciding against changing to that bus stop. But things were pretty desolate and not at all well lit by 4th Street (there are rougher bars in that area too), so I wasn't at all thrilled about that bus stop either. Turbo is right, as you go closer toward the Hennepin Avenue bridge, the nightlife does begin to thin out.

I would add that the blocks are actually very long too. (Try doing a Google Map street view and following the route.) It would have been one long, cold walk in a sketchy part of town had Chris decided to go that way. And he was just way too smart for that.

Turbo said...

No problem, Lisa. I wanted to give people some perspective on the area. The change is quite drastic and occurs within just a block or so. It goes from nice/upscale bars and restaurants with people everywhere to strip joints, sketchy dive bars and questionable people loitering and dealing drugs right on the street. Your assessment of the area is spot on as well.

I can't stress enough how noticeable rough the area gets once you pass 5th/6th Streets. Someone drunk and/or unfamiliar with the area could easily wander into trouble. Walking around during the day can be unsettling in that area....I would not want to be caught out there alone in the early morning hours.

Lisa said...

@ Turbo,

I'm sorry I missed your last post. It sounds like we're in agreement on downtown. I haven't actually spent much time past 5th/6th at night, mostly because I had my fill downtown after using that bus stop! But I bet it is just more of the same, or even rougher. The Twin Cities are safer than many big cities, yet this isn't a great place to be at night, especially if you stand out in a crowd.

Anonymous said...

Ive never been kicked out of a bar....but how can they keep your keys in 20 degree weather? Am i missing something? Wouldnt it be obvious he was under dressed and really intoxicated? 2 plus 2 equals 4?

Juanita T said...

I am with Katie on this one. How incredibly heartless to kick someone out of a bar with no coat and the temperature being so low. I think it would be absolutely necessary to go back and find these two men who were working in that bar that night and kicked him out. It very well may be that a bartender and a bouncer or two are in on it and throw these young men out after having administered something in a drink or merely seeing that they are going to be in need due to weather or distance when ejected. They could then have either a security guard in a car or a real or fake cop outside to "help" these men while really taking them captive to do them harm. If these bouncers mentioned were not questioned thoroughly and given lie detector tests, much has been left undone. May God help those who are trying to uncover this evil and prevent more from being harmed!

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C said...

I'm just now finding this site after hearing multiple podcasts regarding the missing/MURDERED college men. Just like others, I'm outraged by the actions of these "bouncers" and how they think removing an intoxicated individual from an establishment and leaving them to fend for themselves during late nights and freezing temperatures is acceptable. I hope these places are sued and shut down for their involvement. Clearly, if not for being thrown out of the bar that night , this young man would likely be alive.


Why doesn't the FAMILY sue the Bar for their grosse act of negligence.

Jan Jenkins said...

I am Chris Jenkins's mother. For all who speculate about how intoxicated he 'was' please read my book, Footprints of Courage, and you will read about forensic evidence that points to a very different reality. The bar has been gone for years. Families have no rights other than media. We appeared countless times on national and local media to stand up for our son and now, well over 300 young men who have met death in a similar way. Some consider it to be the largest mass murder in US history. For our family and dozens of close friends, this is up front and personal. The book, Footprints of Courage, is 100% fact-based. Stick together, stay alive.

Reb said...

I read the book and every cop who did nothing, including the ones who provided security for the bar should be fired...Jan, Steve and Sara...bless you. Chris R.I.P.

Reb said...

I read the book and every cop who did nothing, including the ones who provided security for the bar should be fired...Jan, Steve and Sara...bless you. Chris R.I.P.

Todd Lukens said...

I was one of Chris's best friends from a young age through his disappearance. I am not sure what exactly happened that night. But I am sure of a few things: 1) Chris did not deserve what happened to him, 2) there is no way that this was a suicide, and 3) Steve, Jan and Sarah are a great family, great people, and Chris would be so proud of them and what they have done to fight for him, raise awareness, and advocate for other victims. I was able to spend this last Halloween with the family, and it was an amazingly therapeutic experience for all parties.

Chris is gone, but not forgotten. He touched so many people's lives in a positive way. He is missed greatly.

Unknown said...

I watched a show a few years back about this case. Wasnt the bouncer a "person of interest" at the time? Was he ever fully investigated?: i dont remember much from that show; however, i do recall thinking the bouncer was involved.

Guest said...

I watched a show a few years back about this case. Wasnt the bouncer a "person of interest" at the time? Was he ever fully investigated?: i dont remember much from that show; however, i do recall thinking the bouncer was involved.

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I found this site and many stories like this after independently experiencing in my neighborhood in 2012 a BC student Franco Garcias death in 2012 under very similar circumstances. It's alarming now that I have researched more how common this story is. Weirdly and now depressingly I had never heard much / any skepticism or suspected foul play in Franco's case once his body was found and police said "accidental drowning", but the story just did not add up to me and it bothered me greatly for years that the story died basically immediately and that was that.

The basic logic of the situation was baffling: You don't leave your coat+wallet at the bar in the winter, impulsively run away from friends after texting "don't leave w/o me" (his last text) and run three blocks to take a dip the lake at 1AM -- i mean it just didn't add up as 'accidental.' What bothered me the most was that very likely a murder happened three blocks from where I lived, but it was never appropriately investigated. I can only imagine how complex that must be to deal with as a parent.

I had heard loose fragments and stories of similar young male / college students being found in a body of water in similar circumstances anecdotally (many being classified as suicides when that just didn't make sense) -- but having discovered this site and the many stories and the subsequent apathy / negligence in the related investigations is just so heartbreaking to have my suspensions validated: that this a real thing that's impacted hundreds and hundreds of other lives.

My deepest sympathy to everyone affected. I don't really know what the purpose of my comment here is except to say thank you for sharing your story author+family commentors+others. I am deeply saddened @ concerned about the implications of this trend being likely 1) connected 2) ongoing 3) not being taken seriously by law enforcement.


Unknown said...

I believe Chris was murdered. However I don't believe in the mass killing theory.
Whenever I am with friends or family without a doubt if we are around water the guys go pee in the lake/dam/whatever. I think young men are more likely to take risks, more likely to think they can handle any situation, more likely to be experimenting with drugs or getting drunk and these factors with the peeing in the water could explain a lot of the deaths.

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Shauna Leavitt said...

Has anyone from the Jenkins family looked into what's happening in Boston (lots of young men disappearing after a night of drinking, found in bodies of water and ruled accidental drowning)

Unknown said...

Watched a tv show on this tonight.. the bouncer said no one kicked him out.. so what made him leave? Is the bouncer lying? So confusing and so sad! RIP chris.. btw he was sooooo cute!!

Unknown said...

I also watched the show tonight and I think it may have been the guy already in jail. He once admitted at least to have been there. I don't believe he was thrown off the bridge because it would have been on camera. So I think he was killed some other way and the answers lie with this guy. So far there has not been evidence to charge the guy.

Connie Calvert said...

What did the autopsy report show as far as possible blow to the head? There would be some evidence upon examination of hemorrhage to the skin, subcutaneous tissue etc if he did receive a blow to the head. I am confused why it’s never been mentioned as to what the path report showed?

Unknown said...

I just watched the show. I believe Chris didn't die that night. I believe he died right before his body was found. I believe someone placed him in the water. I believe whoever had him didn't feed him or give him water. I believe someone placed his hair in his hands. Does the autopsy report show his hair pulled out or was his hair cut? I believe that is the murderer signature. Has there been any other person's found with hair in theut hands. It's kinda like a locker key necklace....RIP CHRIS. I AM SO SORRY FOR HIS MOM AND DAD NEVER GIVE UP...XO

Really Want To Help said...

I watched the show also! There is a lot of information that we don't know. There is a lot of time that has gone by. Anything is possible! The fact that he is alone in a bad area, dressed to stand out and had something to drink is all not working in his favor.
I've never been drunk walking around the streets at night alone, so I don't know what my human nature reaction would be. Did he decide to walk all the way back home at that point in time? Did he not realize that he didn't have his wallet, his keys, his coat when he started off? Did he forget that he drove there with friends? Why didn't he ask someone from the bar to go and get his friends, his keys, his wallet, his coat? "Hey, look buddy it's cold out here! Can you at least get me my stuff and I'll be on my way? Can you ask my friends to step out here, so that I can talk to them and let them know what is going on? I want my friends to know what is going on and what has happened!" Don't you think that should have been his next logical move?
That is what someone who is not tired and been drinking would hopefully say! But if you've been to a keg party and a bar would you still have all of your faculties together to logically approach the problem that way? I don't know as I have never been in this situation.

These are my thoughts on the show and the little bit that I know about the case ...
Maybe he did set out to try to walk back home on his own somehow being disoriented and forgetting about the dangerous neighborhood, his friends, his car, his keys, his wallet, his cellphone ... At some point in time he would have started getting cold. He may not even have known that he wasn't wearing a coat and just thought that it was because he was outside in the cold too long. Then with drinking and being cold he had to go. So, as many guys do he makes his way down to the river to pee there. Something happens it is cold and dark and he can't see where he is going or where he is standing very well. Maybe his judgement is still clouded from the beer ... or whatever it is he had to drink over the course of the night. Lets say that he makes it in one piece to the rivers edge. He is standing there in the dark and misjudges his distance to the start of the river and falls in. Or he is standing on a rock that is slippery and slips in. Now he is in cold water and he himself is cold. The cold water will start to take its toll on the body by not letting him be able to grab and hold onto stuff as his muscles are now not working properly. He being an athlete knows this and instead of fighting it which he knows will not be winable either decides that his best bet is to float like a log down the river and the waterfalls ... And hope that he will eventually land safe along the bank somewhere. Maybe he miscalculates how cold the water is and what effect it is going to have on him and 15 minutes later he is frozen, no one knows where he is so they are not looking for him and by the time they start looking for him too much time in the water has already taken its toll. He drowns with his hands crossed over his chest the way he tried to float down the river and sinks. The air is cold, the water is cold and this preserves the body from really decomposing as quickly as it normally might. Then in the spring when things start to thaw out and warm up the decomposition starts to accelerate causing the body to float to the surface where he is later found floating around on his back.
It may not be easy to swallow for the family and friends who do not want this to be the case and that is understandable.
For them it is surely tragic losing someone in such a way so close to graduation with everything to live for!

Kaeli Domino said...

The issue I have with the theory involving him going down to the water to pee is that it’s not that convenient. I’m a student at the U of M and have taken the exact same route after a night out. My experience is that it’s easier finding a place to go into nearby to use the bathroom. Even if he wanted to pee while supposedly on or near the bridge, it’s a trek down to the water. It’s not necessarily an on the way stop. Although if this was the case it’s very dark under the bridge and would be hard to see anything once he was down there. If he did go down there that could explain why there’s no footage of him actually on the bridge.

The show that aired recently talked about the possibility of him hanging out at Nicolette Island......I’ve never heard of anyone here doing that so it’s hard to picture.

Another thing that doesn’t add up is why he left without his phone, keys, and wallet. If I was just kicked out of a bar I’d be damned if I left without any of my stuff. Or hangout for a bit to see if your friend comes out or you can get their attention somehow.

Also there’s conflicting stories of people saying he was kicked out but on the show the bouncer saying he wasn’t. Did he change his story or was the original report from someone else?

Someone’s not saying something. They should have done more questioning immediately after the disappearance.

Really Want To Help said...

Kaeli that's interesting to know! Although at the time he was there supposedly there was not much around. It was pretty deserted quickly with a lot of drug, gang and crime activity in the area near the bar. Finding a place to go in and pee may not have been that easy.

The bouncer may have changed his story based on the outcome of the days events with Chris going missing and then later being found floating in the river as he was. Someone may also have assumed that he was kicked out incorrectly because he left without saying anything to anyone that he was leaving. The show did not really go into the details of it very well. All they did was have the guy say that he didn't kick him out that night.

If there was foul play involved with his disappearance, maybe the persons responsible brought his keys, wallet, cell phone and coat back to the bar and left it there to throw off the investigation making it seem like he left without them when he really didn't since everyone is saying that that is just so strange to leave all of your stuff behind. Someone did write something about a possible conspiracy between the two bouncers and an outside party or the bartender and the bouncers of the bar. I don't know how valid that theory is.

What I find strange is that those friends that he went to the keg party with and the bar ... none of them were interviewed on the show in terms of hey what happened that night? Was Chris in a bad mood? Did something at the bar upset him? Why did you let him leave on his own and not check on him to see if he was ok and if he needed anything. If I were there with my friends, I would go and see that everything was alright. Maybe even leave to be with him and just go to a new place to hang out. They didn't care that he was taking off without them? They weren't worried that he was leaving by himself? That they weren't going to have a ride home without him? The friends were with him. They are the key to the information that is missing! They also would have been able to get at his keys, wallet, coat and cellphone and bring them back to the bar and leave them there as if he had forgotten them there.

None said...

I read that Chris left his stuff with his girlfriend, who worked at the bar, because he didn't have pockets in his costume. I also read that Chris was trying to find weed for his friend who broke his leg that day. Maybe Chris went under the bridge to pick up weed. Even if it was an accident, the dealer may be too afraid to come forward and tell anyone that he was the last to see Chris alive when he sold him pot.

The hair was on his hand, not in his hand. The body was decomposing and that's how the hair floated to his hand.

The water was so cold that Chris would have gulped in air immediately. He could have taken in water at the same time. Confused, freezing, and not able to catch his breath, he couldn't assist himself to save his own life. His arms were crossed in a position that attempted to conserve heat while he tried to figure out what to do.

I believe it was an accident. There may be some elements of negligence involved by someone else but I really have a hard time with murder as the cause of death.

None said...

Ps - alcohol makes you feel warm so he may not have felt cold leaving the bar without a coat.

Really Want To Help said...

Ok, so it was supposed to be a quick run out on an errand and then return? Which would explain why he left his keys for car and apartment, maybe his coat but wallet and cell phone? How was he planning on paying for the drugs without his wallet? His cell phone would have been his emergency backup for anything going wrong? That doesn't make any sense that he would leave that and not take it with him!

Also, if that then his friends knew where he was going, what he was doing and when he should have been back? They did not immediately set out to find him when he was not back 30 minutes later, an hour later? They did not immediately tell the police about this to help find him? It would have helped them narrow down their search for him tremendously. Thereby being able to concentrate on finding and rescuing him instead of guessing where he could be? Would that have saved his life? Minutes count. Maybe. Maybe it still would have been too late! They would have found him a whole lot sooner than 3 months later.

Did someone see him fall into the river and not call 911 for help? He's alive at that point and then he dies ... what do they call that? I'm sure they have a term for that. It could have been an anonymous call! Hey, I last saw him under the bridge at this time and he was standing on solid ground at the time we went our separate ways. I don't know maybe the family knows this and that's who they are looking for. Talking to that person would help close and answer all questions that they have right now keeping it open in their minds still hoping to understand.

None said...

I don't think he had his wallet that night. I read somewhere that $100 was stolen from his wallet and I think he was going to buy the pit on credit. His didn't drive so he would only need his key if he was heading home. He was separated from his friends and girlfriend at the bar so I don't think anyone knew that he was leaving.

I read that there was a witness on the bridge but nobody talked to the witness. I am curious what the witness saw and why the police didn't question the witness.

None said...

The pot, not pit.

Really Want To Help said...

It sounds as though there were a whole lot of poor judgement decisions made throughout the evening. 1) to go to a bar that is in a bad, gang, drug neighborhood that is in a pretty desolate area 2) to break away from the group you go to this location with 3) to set out on your own to buy drugs without anyone knowing where or what you are doing 4) to not have a cell phone along to use in emergency 5) just even going to buy drugs

If you think about this logically, you are asking for trouble with this kind of behavior. It is almost suicidal behavior! But, young people do crazy, stupid things that they don't think through. Sometimes they get lucky and do not find trouble. Other times they are not so lucky and it finds them. This situation turned out to be the worst decision, he could have made!

If there indeed was any type of drug activity related to the disappearance and death of him, that would explain why no one is talking and the case is unsolved. Which means that the parents have probably come as close to finding out what really happened as they are going to.

Unfortunately for Chris the decision to go out and buy drugs that night was a deadly decision.

None said...

Young people tend to think they're invincible and do all sorts of risky things.

I agree that if this happened around a drug deal that most people will continue to remain silent. Even though most murder investigators could care less about the pot dealing part, if it was another student who was dealing, they could have their reasons for being scared to go forward (Maybe on a scholarship).

I was thinking that one reason Christopher would leave his phone instead of taking it with him - he didn't have pockets and would have to carry it in the open. He might have worried about being mugged carrying his phone where everyone could see it. I remember before cell locking, iPhones and smartphones were being stolen left and right because of the resale value.

I would like to know if there's a drop off under the bridge or if it's a beach area. Without any drop offs, I still can't quite figure how he got into the water.

Really Want To Help said...

Please see Kaeli Domino's response on Thursday, May 3rd. to answer the down to the river question ... terrain and accessibility.

Please see my response just before that on my theory of how he got into the water. (Really Want To Help Wed. May 2nd.)

As far as I understand from what I have read and seen on the map ... It is a very powerful river with strong currents, waterfalls, dark and deep and all of this depends on the time of year and the water level. There was no beach. You could not swim in this river. There is a power plant associated with it. Kaeli writes that it is a long way down and out of the way from where he was headed home to the university. But probably a perfect place to meet up with someone to buy drugs. Not many people down there, dark, off the beaten path. No one would see you do the deal because it is so remote!!! From what she describes I would never want to go down there by myself at night in a bad neighborhood. It's scary just thinking about it. You never know what lurks in the dark around his after midnight hours that he would have been there. I don't know him. I can't say if he would have braved it. Before all of this drug talk I had my own theory that I shared in this blog about how he wound up in the water.

None said...

So there is no beach there. What is the water's edge like there? Is it even possible to get out of the water in that location if you fell in?

Your theory about him floating would make sense if there was no way to get out where he fell in. Or it may have just been the shock of the cold water that confused him and he wasn't able to find a way out even if there was one. It would have been dark and he may have become disoriented affecting his ability to find a way out.

The arm position is easily explained. Put your arms in the same position that Christopher's arms were. Now imagine shivering with your arms like that. That is a natural response to being cold and trying to conserve heat.

I hate to go on a witch hunt if this was a simple accident. I hope that everyone will consider the accident theory as a possibility too. There's a quote that says something to the effect of, it's better to let a guilty person walk free then to lock up an innocent person. Sometimes an accident is just an accident.

Really Want To Help said...

All of this chatter started after a TV show aired on April 29, 2018 on channel 171 about Chris, his disappearance and being found floating in the river. I am not from the area. I have never been there. I do remember it being broadcast on TV when it happened and hearing it there. So, watching the show is a natural. Plus it's a channel I like to watch all of the time anyway. I can't add anything else to this mystery.

All I can say is that the following night I was thinking about what I saw on the show and the theory popped into my head. I usually listen to my inner voice and go with it. It's usually fairly accurate. I wanted to share this with the family then. Normally I don't post comments to blog sites like these. In fact this is a first. I wound up writing so much it wouldn't let me post it. So, I kept deleting pieces until it would let me post.

To the family: Please just consider this as a possibility. You have more information and facts than all of us and you also knew him. We do not. There are so many different possibilities of what could have happened that night. That it is unimaginable. If you think about it logically, this is what I come up with. Add a crucial piece of information and all of this can easily change and move in a different direction. Only you can answer this better than any of us. I hope that this has helped to bring you some closure and that you can move on with your lives somewhat.

Even a great athlete and swimmer cannot overcome the physics of cold water and what it does to our bodies when we fall into it. The Titanic ... and all of the people who drowned in the freezing cold water fairly quickly is an example of this that comes to mind. I truly hope that I have helped you and that you can find peace with your situation and move forward with your lives again.

None said...

To Really Want to Help,
I am not sure why this story has gotten to me either. After seeing it, I felt strongly compelled to share my theory too (and I have never done this before either). I hope that the family is able to find some sense of peace with whatever answers come from airing the show.

Nick Jonas said...

I don't know if any of you still with this case in your heads, but I do. I saw the "documentary" on one of the Discovery Channels and there was a lot of things that wasn't discussed, like the autopsy, the costume was torned up in some place I don't remember. Another thing, the legist doctor said that the GHP found in his blood was naturally produced by the decomposition. In this doc, the of-duty cop was interviewed and said that he didn't expelled Chris, and I undestood that someone saw a car overther, but I'm not sure. The doc was so superficial that only made me ask more. By the investigation that they made, he wasn't pulled out from the bridge, but by a island or something that, in the other way that the people thought that he was pulled out. In this island there was a lot of satanic cavern' that probably have parties in there and maybe he went and there was the chrime. Theirs sollutions wasn't the same (there was two guys), one think there was a chrime and the other thinks it was an accident. (wtf). One doctor interviewed said that someone can be heat and stay whithout a bruise if he had a thick hair. But, all the things in his blood would have stayed in all this time after 4 months? Were there any injures? Cause they only said that there wasn`t any broken bone. Were we expelled or not? if he were, were cause of he spilled drink in himself or fought with his girlfriend? I don`t see anything solving, only more questions. Now I`m starting his mother`s book, cause I looked all that has on the internet.

P.S.: Sorry for my english, i'm foreign
Sorry for my name on blogger it is my account when I was younger and a Jonas Brother's fan, I don't know how to change it

Unknown said...

The bar has been closed for many years

Unknown said...

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