tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post8310297034136901..comments2024-03-01T02:28:15.472-06:00Comments on Footprints at The River's Edge: Setting the record straight about Dan ZamlenLisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11452662850165426833noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-18058722479855093562021-10-30T08:12:41.028-05:002021-10-30T08:12:41.028-05:00Fact: He’s dead. I hate it for everyone involved, ...Fact: He’s dead. I hate it for everyone involved, but it is what it is.63Impalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14620768671401757121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-73500639221479617352010-03-15T03:17:24.013-05:002010-03-15T03:17:24.013-05:00There is one fact that really jumps out at me and ...There is one fact that really jumps out at me and this is about the pod still being on Dan's body upon recovery.<br /><br />It would be an enlightening call to the manufacturer to ask if this is even possible. It may be the company has nothing to compare this finding to from previous years and may lead to some speculation, however if Sally Zamlen has not made this call I would highly recommend it. This is just one of many ways to get some answers.<br />Toll Free number to Omnipod customer service specialists 1-800-591-3455Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-235055773132473992010-03-12T15:35:50.755-06:002010-03-12T15:35:50.755-06:00Dan's phone has not been found.Dan's phone has not been found.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452662850165426833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-5917312262729120952010-03-11T23:18:30.692-06:002010-03-11T23:18:30.692-06:00You go Sally. Scout moms rock all the way.You go Sally. Scout moms rock all the way.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02884226307974861051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-33242338556083421832010-03-11T23:10:39.632-06:002010-03-11T23:10:39.632-06:00I read a news article stating metal detectors wer...I read a news article stating metal detectors were used to look for the phone but it was never reported that the phone was located.Mrs.Zamlen refers to phone records so I don't think they found the actual phoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-82807927296659048732010-03-11T22:57:04.257-06:002010-03-11T22:57:04.257-06:00What I would like everyone to pay special attentio...What I would like everyone to pay special attention to is the following:<br /><br />"Zamlen's voice grew distant as he said those last few words, as if he were moving away from his cell phone, she said. Then the phone cut out. Family members and friends said it rang unanswered for several hours afterward before going straight to voicemail, indicating that its battery was dead."<br /><br />There are reports in past cases,stating the same information. The victims voices are reported as growing faint, trailing off into the distance and then the phone call going dead. My assumption is that the calls are being blocked by a phone jammer. And did they ever find Dan's phone? It continued to ring and go to voicemail until the battery died,telling me it never entered the water or was damaged in a "fall".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-91399204702595677322010-03-11T22:56:43.574-06:002010-03-11T22:56:43.574-06:00@ Cherish
I can't even recall if Dan's ph...@ Cherish<br /><br />I can't even recall if Dan's phone was recovered or not. Anybody know?Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-66070011540486185822010-03-11T22:36:00.979-06:002010-03-11T22:36:00.979-06:00What I would like everyone to pay special attentio...What I would like everyone to pay special attention to is the following:<br /><br />"Zamlen's voice grew distant as he said those last few words, as if he were moving away from his cell phone, she said. Then the phone cut out. Family members and friends said it rang unanswered for several hours afterward before going straight to voicemail, indicating that its battery was dead."<br /><br />There are reports in past cases,stating the same information. The victims voices are reported as growing faint, trailing off into the distance and then the phone call going dead. My assumption is that the calls are being blocked by a phone jammer. And did they ever find Dan's phone? It continued to ring and go to voicemail until the battery died,telling me it never hit the water or was damaged in a "fall".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-11893854316916370892010-03-11T16:15:29.833-06:002010-03-11T16:15:29.833-06:00@ Monique777
I don't think you've stepped...@ Monique777<br /><br />I don't think you've stepped on anyone's toes nor do I find you offensive. I actually like your comments, so keep up the good work.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-31549637714087700292010-03-11T15:51:55.349-06:002010-03-11T15:51:55.349-06:00@ Sally Zamlen
Thank you so much for sharing the ...@ Sally Zamlen<br /><br />Thank you so much for sharing the facts. They are so different than what was reported in the media.<br /><br />I am so sorry for your loss and encourage and support you in seeking the truth as far as what happened to Dan that tragic night. I hope you find answers and can eventually find some peace.Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-4802414474427590362010-03-11T15:48:14.291-06:002010-03-11T15:48:14.291-06:00@ Lisa
It also get the impression something was g...@ Lisa<br /><br />It also get the impression something was going on between Dan and Anna. If the kiss was just a friendly gesture by Anna, I can't see why Dan's friends would even bother telling the police about it.<br /><br />@BITM<br /><br />Other sources? No, just what's available to everyone. But living in a neighborhood filled with St. Thomas students, there was some talk but I regarded it all as rumor which most of it turned out to be. So sorry, no additional sources.Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-843431005026706812010-03-11T15:03:13.564-06:002010-03-11T15:03:13.564-06:00Thank you to Mrs. Zamlen for sharing additional de...Thank you to Mrs. Zamlen for sharing additional details.<br /><br />This case sounds to me that something may have happened at the party, accidental overdose perhaps if the drinks were drugged "for fun". If the party goers were slipped the drugs and then Dan got sick and died, then they would have went to great lengths to cover it up. Including the phone calls where they claim Dan said he was by the river. Anyone can make a call from someone else's phone, if they don't leave a message, can't prove who it was. Also, if someone (involved in cover up) claims to have spoken to Dan, can't really prove it was him that made the call. They could have used his phone to make it appear that he made the calls, with the exeption of the VM. JMO.<br /><br />In so many of these cases the parents accept the rulings of accident so when a parent questions the validity, then I lean towards the parent as they tend to know when something is not quite right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-63559698278161474502010-03-11T02:10:37.199-06:002010-03-11T02:10:37.199-06:00@ BITM
I AM on a fact-finding mission but sure do...@ BITM<br /><br />I AM on a fact-finding mission but sure don't mean to step on anyone's toes or come across as offensive.Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-13352819666952712662010-03-11T00:47:52.939-06:002010-03-11T00:47:52.939-06:00@ Monique777
Sorry, it came across as if you were...@ Monique777<br /><br />Sorry, it came across as if you were on this fact-finding mission and had already compiled some of this info from other sources, not just Sally's letter.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-38557304750359000802010-03-10T23:59:36.149-06:002010-03-10T23:59:36.149-06:00The information I posted came from Sally Zamlen...The information I posted came from Sally Zamlen's "facts". She states there is no record of Dan calling Anna and that Dan made 8 attempts to contact his 2 friends. I really don't have any more information other than what Sally Zamlen is providing here and pointing out so I'm not sure what you mean about creating a second blog. Wouldn't that just be redundant?<br />I do apologize if I over-post about Dan and GHB etc. It was so close to home and my heart still breaks for his family.Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-48539386335451089872010-03-10T23:52:01.430-06:002010-03-10T23:52:01.430-06:00@ Lisa
I just checked and he doesn't have a O...@ Lisa<br /><br />I just checked and he doesn't have a Omnipod. He has a Medtronic Minimed. It too lasts 3 days before it needs to be refilled but my dad claims that it can't be submerged in water for anytime and must be removed when he showers.<br /><br />But the no water in the lungs..that's how I interpreted it which should have been enough of a mystery that would allow for further investigation or at least a more in-depth tox screen.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-40677186820193962352010-03-10T23:21:06.712-06:002010-03-10T23:21:06.712-06:00@ BITM - I will have to get clarification, but I s...@ BITM - I will have to get clarification, but I suspect the reason they can't say for certain that he drowned was because there was a lack of water in the lungs. <br />Anyone have any insight into this?<br /><br />I do plan to post some more information on the insulin pump that Dan was wearing. It was an Omnipod pump that was changed every 3 days and not meant to be submerged for very long. The manufacturer's website even recommends checking it frequently if you are in the water for any length of time. If your father has that same kind, I'd be interested in hearing his take on it.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452662850165426833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-68722156350375446112010-03-10T23:09:56.799-06:002010-03-10T23:09:56.799-06:00@ Monique777
Perhaps you should compile a thoroug...@ Monique777<br /><br />Perhaps you should compile a thorough list of descrepancies with the case to be included in a seperate blog post (if Lisa agrees?)<br /><br />It might be hard to pin down actual statements because I remember the media kept attributing different comments to the girls and there was a lot of confusion as to what they actually said.<br /><br />For example, I was under the impresson that Dan was trying to call/text the girls, I didn't know he was trying to reach those guys.<br /><br />It would also be interesting to read the inaccuracies, like the one where you claim there was no record of Dan calling Anna. I would really like to see moreon that. Also see if you can verify if the Sgt is related to the guy who threw the party because that would be a conflict of interest right there.<br /><br />One more thing, my father has an insulin pump. I'm not sure if it's the same kind Dan had but I will check with him and see what he says.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-85353646127088072452010-03-10T23:03:20.344-06:002010-03-10T23:03:20.344-06:00@ Lisa
"...I would think the GHB could be im...@ Lisa<br /><br />"...I would think the GHB could be important. The second ME by Dr. Uncini even stated, "It is likely he drowned, but I feel the manner of death cannot be determined and requires more police investigation and/or access to existing police records." So why not pull out the old GHB test?"<br /><br />So are they saying that the confusion stems from their being no water in the lungs, thus indicating a drowning death?Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-23144792800466627722010-03-10T23:00:24.989-06:002010-03-10T23:00:24.989-06:00@ Lisa
"If you read closely, Mrs. Zamlen sai...@ Lisa<br /><br />"If you read closely, Mrs. Zamlen said that reporting on Gannon's allegations was a violation of the young woman's rights, so I don't think she is implying the incident did not happen, only that the media should not be reporting on it when charges were not filed. This is actually not in the best interest of either party."<br /><br />I reread it and you are correct, Lisa. I apologize for my previous remark as I should have read the letter more thoroughly.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-49285208931803823952010-03-10T22:56:02.911-06:002010-03-10T22:56:02.911-06:00@ Eddie
"You are incorrect in stating that G...@ Eddie<br /><br />"You are incorrect in stating that GHB is tasteless."<br /><br />Honestly, I'm just going off of info I have read on the web. If you google, "GHB tasteless" you will be given many links to articles stating that it is tasteless. I have no idea if GHB is tasteless, as I have never used it nor do I know of anyone who has used it.Doc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-86093141247951526222010-03-10T22:38:36.588-06:002010-03-10T22:38:36.588-06:00Monique,
You make an excellent point--if the stat...Monique,<br /><br />You make an excellent point--if the statements by the girls are so inconsistent, then they should be thrown out (or at least viewed under a microscope) because it would be impossible to tell what to believe. (I'd also add, that if these girls are so unreliable, then any opinion as to Dan's sexual preference or state of mind should also be thrown out and never reported on in the media.) <br /><br />It is also interesting that Andre and Chad say that Anna kissed Dan that night. If their statements can be believed, then it would appear that there was something going on between Anna and Dan and that Anna initiated the contact (and then lied and said Dan did).<br /><br />I had many of the same questions you had. I'll try to see if I can get some clarification. I do know that there are also many more inconsistencies that Mrs. Zamlen has found!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452662850165426833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-46904353923522663532010-03-10T22:18:30.937-06:002010-03-10T22:18:30.937-06:00@ BITM
"However, the implication is that the...@ BITM<br /><br />"However, the implication is that the vodka tastes horrible because it is drugged, even though GHB is tasteless."<br /><br />You are incorrect in stating that GHB is tasteless. <br /><br />In a document created by the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services (http://tinyurl.com/yz4kd74<br />) it is stated that... "In liquid form, GHB is colorless and odorless and has a salty or soapy taste." The taste of GHB is well documented. It's taste can be masked in strongly flavored drinks, but you are incorrect in saying that it is tasteless.<br /><br />The fact that Dan Zamlen said that his vodka drink tasted bad may be a very significant detail surrounding his death. For you to dispute Mrs. Zamlen's statement about GHB having a "salty taste" is reckless. BITM, get your facts straight before you say that someone else's facts are wrong.Eddie Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08302593799076995083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-23777915821520097342010-03-10T21:49:44.178-06:002010-03-10T21:49:44.178-06:00BITM,
Thanks, I see I was reading it too literall...BITM,<br /><br />Thanks, I see I was reading it too literally! I hadn't seen the story you mentioned. <br /><br />But from this recent story, it does sound to me as though Mrs. Zamlen has given the GHB report to the authorities and that the Ramsey County ME dismissed it, refusing to compare the new results to his own initial test. I am not sure why he felt that the GHB finding was irrelevant. <br /><br />I know that the GHB test can be considered controversial in that GHB can be found in the body naturally, but when you take into consideration that the other findings were not so clear cut (i.e., no injuries from a fall and no conclusive evidence of drowning), I would think the GHB could be important. The second ME by Dr. Uncini even stated, "It is likely he drowned, but I feel the manner of death cannot be determined and requires more police investigation and/or access to existing police records." So why not pull out the old GHB test?Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452662850165426833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1766322694484209381.post-27363691811066311142010-03-10T21:40:18.994-06:002010-03-10T21:40:18.994-06:00Thanks so much for sharing this information about ...Thanks so much for sharing this information about Dan and what happened to him on that tragic night.<br /><br />I had the opportunity to talk with Dan's father, Dale, during the search for Dan and I have never met such a kind and wonderful person. So when I read the article about Dan's case being closed it turned my stomach at how the media went on a joy ride trying to smear Dan's name. It is so great Sally Zamlen is taking steps to defend her son because as people have said, Dan is not here to speak for himself. It is a disgrace the article even mentioned sexual orientation, suicide etc. because it had nothing to do with the ruling of an accident.<br /><br />It's enlightening to see how we all interpret things so differently. I had taken the bodily fluid to mean urine. In speculating, I thought that perhaps Dan had passed out cold (because of GHB or alcohol or hypoglycemia) and was put in the back of Anna's car to be taken somewhere. It is not unusual for people to lose bladder control when they are passed out cold from any of the above mentioned reasons.<br /><br />Also, Sally Zamlen has made it clear that both Anna and Sarah were not truthful the night Dan disappeared. Because of this we can't believe anything these girls have said. We can't pick and choose where they may have lied and where they may have told the truth. We have to throw out everything these girls have said, including their claim Dan was all over them the night he disappeared. Clearly, these girls tell contradictory stories. <br /><br />There are so many discrepancies Sally Zamlen has listed. This just doesn't make sense.<br /><br />There are a few things that jumped out at me while reading this.<br /><br />1. Dan called/texted Chad and Tim so many times (8) as he walked towards the river. If it is a 9 minute walk, then Dan is using his phone nearly once every minute to contact someone. This seems desperate. I wonder why he was so anxious (almost seems in a panic)to get a hold of either one of them. But another thought also passes through my mind. Are we sure it was Dan making these calls/texts to Chad and Tim? Would it be possible Dan was in the car with someone else and passed out and she was the one in a panic trying to get in touch with these friends to help her out? Just a thought.<br /><br />2. I was wondering if Sgt. Patrick Kane was related to Austin Kane, the one who had the party (or at least had the keg) and served alcohol to minors.<br /><br />3. Dan's insulin pod was still attached to his body. I can hardly believe this. The manufacturer says you can go in the water for 30minutes with this devise and should not go deeper than 8 feet yet Dan was in the river for weeks and the pod stayed on? Folks, this pod is taken off and re-filled, it is not a permanent fixture. In addition, the river was high from run-off and all this turbulence didn't knock the pod off of his body after weeks???<br /><br />4. Dan never called Anna from his phone records. I can't help but to wonder why someone would lie and say they had a conversation on the phone when they didn't. And why didn't Chad or Tim respond to Dan's calls/texts?<br /><br />The answers to what exactly happened to Dan go back to the party. It really seems they are hiding something.Monique777https://www.blogger.com/profile/16429479918613667149noreply@blogger.com